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  1. Matt Black

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    No we are not as we don't need to know them for our UK jobs funnily enough. It's not much of an inalienable right though if (a) it was the subject of just an amendment (b) is only held by Americans and (c) trumps the right to life (of children in this instance)
     
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    No, it's the same phenomenon that causes WWI generals to cavalry charge trenches bristling with machine gun nests and heavy artillery. Their men aren't bothered about post- modern accusations as they all died in the first theory seconds. .
     
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    You're right: we don't and thanks be to God never will. So I repeat my original question: how many more schoolchildren need to be massacred before you wake up and smell the coffee on your side of The Pond?
     
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    I’m not a lawyer, how would I know. Get that darling of a president on it with his staff of lawyers on it and make it happen.
     
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    This generation will do nothing. But the next will be activists. Wait and see.
     
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    It will give new meaning to let the dead bury the dead
     
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    The Florida schoolkids give me.hope
     
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    When you call something that causes so much needless death and misery 'inalienable ', then you have a real problem as a country. Kind of like the 'woman's right to choose' : that part of the same culture of death has become so embedded in both our countries that it will take a wholesale conversion of our peoples to change that (none of our respective governments of either hue have done much to roll that back sadly). I suppose the difference is that with abortion there are Christian voices speaking out; where are those prophetic voices from the Church on gun control? Or have they become so much 'cultural Christians' on that issue that they can no longer see the wood for the trees?
     
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    Good then you need to be a voice for them... so do I for that matter.
     
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    CINO... otherwise Christians in name only. I really wonder if the Holy Spirit has done his work on most of these so called “Evangicals”... that they would stand idle to massacre after massacre. What’s the hero of the ages, Donald Trump doing to stop this... only time will tell.
     
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    Another ignorant statement from a subject, not a citizen.

    IN CONGRESS, JULY 4, 1776

    The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America
    When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
     
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    Wrong again. The 2nd amendment only recognizes the God given right.

    And wrong again. Every person is made in the image and likeness of God and has a God given right to life. Too bad that Socialist government you live under refuses to recognize that God given right.

    No, children have the right to life too. That is why we are willing to protect them with our very lives if necessary. And those who won't defend themselves, their loved ones, and the children can just hide under the bed while we take care of the killers.

    Just say "thank you."
     
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    Where was this when Roe v Wade was being Inacted? Was that put in place to protect the Right of the People (the murder of unborn innocents)? Are we as a country so enamored with our judicial system “as it stands” that we cannot address the murders of unborn, the slaughter of kids in schools, the murders of our own Christians in churches.... my God, what have we become!?!
     
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    Sounds like something I heard... oh yes, the movie, “A Few Good Men”

    Kaffee: I WANT THE TRUTH!

    Col. Jessup: YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

    [pauses]

    Col. Jessup: Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know; that Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, *saves lives*. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it! I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a *damn* what you think you are entitled to!
     
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    The continentals were federal troops, not militia.

    The militia includes nearly everyone, because the responsibility for protection originates with the individual. We opt to empower the police and military to perform certain tasks, but that does not strip away the rights of self protection from the individual.
     
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    And that's your problem. Hope fix on anything this side of glory will fail you.

    Liberals imagine they can fix the world and create a utopia on Earth, but what they fail to see, which is made abundantly clear by history and the evidence of one's eye's, is that evil resides in the heart of men, and that gets us right back to the right and need for men to arm themselves.
     
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    Likewise, how many more men, women, or children need to be murdered by illegals from south of our border (currently in the hundreds each year) before the Democrats join with the rest of us in building a wall and doing everything possible to keep those killers out.
     
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    Rifles (An AR-15 is a type of rifle) were used in 285 murders in 2013. Knives were used in 1,490

    Where is the outrage over knife ownership?


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    Then you refuse to countenance the most realistic thing in this current situation. Like I said before, the cat is already out of the bag on this one and if is not a rifle that is used it will be a pistol. Armed security, controlling ingress and egress, and armed teachers trained to a high level by law enforcement is what we need to do now and this is already happening in some states.

    Good grief, give some teachers a fighting chance against an armed school assailiant to same some kids and themselves. When Hitler was at your door you Brits did the right thing in arming your Home Army made up of average people and we now need to do the same thing with our teachers. I wish such a thing was not needed, but burying one's head in the sand will not make this go away.
     
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    In England there is even to the point of requiring only dull knives to be sold.
     
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