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What is the OFFICIAL Sda Views On Gospel And Ellen White?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Yeshua1, Mar 23, 2018.

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  1. BobRyan

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    Not true. Only the "Lord's goat" was called 'the sin offering' once it was identified. Never the "scapegoat".
    And only the sin offering could be a subtitutionary atoning sacrifice for sins.. the scapegoat was not killed - it was banished.

    "without the shedding of blood - no forgiveness of sins" Hebrews 9.

    The scapegoat is a symbol for the wicked paying their own debt -- as in the Matthew 18 case of "forgiveness revoked" the servant's full debt comes back to him to pay.
     
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    Not "assembled for weekly worship" but "assembled for fear of the Jews"

    In Acts 18:4 "EVERY SABBATH" they gather for gospel preaching - both Jews and Gentiles - in the synagogue.

    By contrast -- No such "Every week-day-1" for gathering, for worship, for Gospel preaching in all of scripture.

    Nor even a single "week-day-1 is the Lord's day" in all of scripture

    Even your own John 20 reference leaves it as a one time 'week day 1'
     
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    1. The 16th day of Nisan is not always on a Saturday.

    2. The text you use for "week-day-1" has a conspicuous lack of mention of "week day 1" or even "Lord's Day" and it certainly is not true that Pentecost would happen every week-day-1. You are pointing at another "one time event"
     
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    Thanks for the heads up. You must be good at carpentry; you hit the nail on the head.

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    Interestingly, that almost the whole of Christendom, from the New Testament times, till our day, have no problem in Sunday as the day of worship, including taking the Day of Pentecost as Sunday. Then we have the likes of the SDA, who suppose that they have some special revelation, which the false-prophet, Mrs White received from someone other than the God of the Holy Bible, where Sunday is disregarded, and the Jewish worship day of Saturday is used as the correct one. Not only so, but also this false-prophet, took it upon herself, to pronounce to ALL those who Biblically worship the Lord God on Sunday, to say that these will have the mark of the beast, as described in the Book of Revelation, and therefore will be damned. This is nothing more than what the Apostle Paul calls, "doctrine of demons".
     
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    [/QUOTE]


    Ignoring every detail mentioned we have this.

    ad populum
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    No doubt the Protestant Reformation was "unpopular" with most Catholics.
    The Christian evangelists of the first century were "unpopular" with the Jews
    The message of Noah was "unpopular" with the world.

    No one questions that.

    But for those interested in "sola scriptura testing" of all doctrine - ... "details matter"

    Christ was confronted with "ad populum --vs-- scripture" in Mark 7:6-13. How did He answer it there
     
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    Reminds me of my signature line..

    When reason vacates in regard to a given subject, the only weapons of argument left are in the hands of emotion. The simplest emotional weapons to wield are name-calling ,disparaging remarks, vitriol and acrimony for those deemed adversaries. All such ad hominem tactics provide nothing of persuasive substance, except to those whose reason has also been vacated on that same subject.
     
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    I can see that you have no regard to Bible or historical facts, but content to continue following the LIES that have deceived you.
     
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    When your appeal to the logical fallacy of ad populum is pointed out - what is the much expected response?

    Reminds me of my signature line..

    When reason vacates in regard to a given subject, the only weapons of argument left are in the hands of emotion. The simplest emotional weapons to wield are name-calling ,disparaging remarks, vitriol and acrimony for those deemed adversaries. All such ad hominem tactics provide nothing of persuasive substance, except to those whose reason has also been vacated on that same subject.
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    The OP says "what is the official SDA belief about ..."

    However there are those here who would love to insert "forget whatever their official belief is - I will tell them what they believe and it is this.. or that.. or whatever I can dream up" --

    And of course everyone does have free will - and can post such things if they like. But at the very least the OP and title were a bit more objective.
     
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    Even though her teachings are non biblical?
     
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    This comes extremely close to denying that the Cross of Christ is the basis to save any sinner!
     
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    How about rejecting Sabbath as binding for today?
     
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    Those doing such as I stated would be honoring the Lord!
     
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    Problem for you is that NEITHER passage supports what you hold though!
     
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    No, rather that nothing we can do here while alive will be able to undo what Christ did for us while upon the Cross, nor be able to undo the sealing of the Holy Spirit!
     
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    It's called a checkmate! Just like when Jesus questioned the Pharisees when they wanted to stick to their made up traditions. SDAs are just like the Pharisees, questions cause them to go silent.

    What a beautiful question! One that causes the Pharisee to shrink away in fear of answering....

    Do you believe if YOU sin YOU will be damned to hell? Yes or No, you are always free to explain your answer in the context you please.

    The perfect question to ask an SDA!
     
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    The way you silence a Pharisee is to ask them a question like Jesus did. Pharisees are hung up on the Law. They believe salvation is found in obedience to the Law. This is proven out by a simple question, ask them, If you sin will you be damned to hell? They will shrink away, dodge and juke, rather than surrender to the beautiful Gospel of Grace.
     
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    Still waiting for the context of your question. When you give it I'll show you how Scripture answers your question.

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