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Does God allow Divorce Today?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 1689Dave, May 12, 2018.

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  1. InTheLight

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    You seem to be saying that divorced people are not and cannot be Elect. Please correct me if I'm misinterpreting what you are saying.

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  2. 1689Dave

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    Born Again Christians always overcome sin. If you see anyone living in sin who professed Christ, you might question their salvation. 3/4 of the converts in the parable of the sower were false believers.
     
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    If the person is already married....and marries someone else...either it is polygamy......or a divorce has taken place...as it says...if her husband yet liveth.....got it big guy?
     
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    Lol, yea, I get that you still don't get what the ONLY Biblical justification for divorce is... or actually it's just as He said, "Not all men can receive this saying", which evidently you're one of those.
     
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    Christ, the Author of the law, is speaking of prenuptial fornication, not adultery, as the only justification for divorce. Under the law adultery was a capital offense, punishable by death by stoning. The man had only ONE opportunity to legally divorce. It was a hard pill to swallow that not all men could accept.
     
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    That's not the point. If your spouse initiates the divorce, or behaves in such a way that the marriage needs to be ended - violence, abuse of children, adultery, etc, then at least separation is needed, which is de facto divorce. Forgiveness of evil behaviour without repentance is for the injured party, & cannot mend the marriage.

    I do not read that divorce is the unforgivable sin, nor do I consider it sinful when a man marries a deserted wife & cares for the children.
     
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    Lol....good one kyred:Roflmao:Roflmao
     
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    Yes...i know about the whole betrothed thing....got it. However that is Not the only situation where divorce could have happened.men were divorcing their wives for all sorts of reasons.
     
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    Yes.

    8 He saith unto them, Moses for your hardness of heart suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it hath not been so. Mt 19
     
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    I agree. A child of God cannot live in a state of sin, adultery or otherwise, over an extended period of time without being convicted by the Holy Spirit. This is the "overcoming sin" part of the relationship and it is ongoing. OR:
    [Heb 12:8 KJV] 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
     
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    I'm going to agree with Covenanter here. Sometimes divorce is forced as a fait accompli on a man or woman by the other party, especially when adultery or other sexual sin comes into the picture. If the party that broke the covenant refuses to repent, then the covenant is broken and the other party is freed.
     
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    Thanks for looking into this. Christians would always forgive and not pursue divorce. But as Paul says, if the unbeliever divorces you, you should let them go (and remain single). Remember, many are false believers and if a "Christian" acts like one, they probably are.
     
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    Well, there is divorce, Italian style, but the big problem today is that the West has defined marriage more or less the way the East has--anything goes. The older generation relied on the legal reasoning of Guy Duty in his book Divorce and Remarriage, which shows by Biblical legal reasoning why divorce is allowed for adultery (and by extension of logic, desertion), which many have already posted.

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    That was not the case for me, both her children and mine were adults... We were both Christians!... Her family and mine were also... I would have NEVER married a lady who was not!... Who wants to start from scratch?:eek:... Not me!... Brother Glen:)
     
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    I believe that any sin is abhorrent to God. As Christians we are not expected to be perfect (only Jesus was perfect) but to repent and turn away from sin. Therefore, I don't think diverse is in a different category than other sins. We are told that blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is the only unforgivable sin. I understand this to be attributing the works of Satan to the Holy Spirit and vice versa. For example it might be saying that God wants me to hate other people in a certain category.

    Continuing in sin without repentance is not representative of a genuine Christian. But neither is rejecting someone because they have committed a particular type of sin. The best thing to do is to examine ourselves first and to take the beam out of our own eye before trying to take the mote out of our brother's eye. SAs Jesus said, let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
     
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    But, divorce is not an option for Christians who must forgive so they can be forgiven. And Christ abolished the Law (divorce included) on the cross. There is no such thing as divorce in God's sight. Divorce is man made fiction.
     
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    So the blood of jesus is not sufficient to cleanse the sin of marrying another with biblical basis? That God can never see that remarriage as being valid, and can no longer bless them if they seek his forgivenes and grace?
     
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    Jesus fulfilled the law, not abolish it!
     
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    Actually, the term would include any sexual deviant behavior, lewd pornography, prostitution, adultery, fornicate, alterante lkifestyles etc!
     
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    Is not the Blood of jesus sufficient to atone and cleanse for even the sin of being remarried wrongly now? If both parties confess to God they have sinned against Him and their former partner, and desire to have Him bless and preserve this new mariage, does God not forgive them, and see them now as being married?
     
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