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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Revmitchell, May 16, 2018.

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Who are these people?
     
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    We all got saved at the ordain point in time when the Holy Spirit had us hear the good news, and enable us to respond to what we had heard!
     
    #23 Yeshua1, Jul 13, 2018
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    Sinners have no innate faith in and of ourselves thoughm,as even that faith has to gifted to us by God!
     
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    Well that's merely a Calvinistic assertion where you say he enables one to respond. What you're not saying is that he equally doesn't grant every member of humanity the same ability or gives them just as much a chance which I say he does.
     
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    Which scriptures would support your assertion here though?
     
    #26 Yeshua1, Jul 13, 2018
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    Faith is never described as a gift in scripture but faith in God is a result of hearing the gospel. Then one chooses to accept the gospel to believe or reject it. That is God's design.
     
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    Ephesians 2:8-10
     
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    Nope not there in that verse salvation is the gift. Sorry for you misinterpretation
     
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    Wonder where any scripture states to us that we all have that saving faith in us?
     
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    It doesn't it says that faith comes from hearing the gospel, it also says that the gospel is the power unto salvation.
     
    #31 Revmitchell, Jul 13, 2018
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    1Cor 12:8 For to one is given through the Spirit the word of wisdom, and to another the word of knowledge, according to the same Spirit;
    9 to another faith,
     
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    Romans 10:17, and the Gospel is indeed the power of salvation unto those whom God has granted to them ears to hear it!
     
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    It doesn't say that.
     
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    God saves His own elect in Christ....
     
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    God saves those who who believes
     
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    Passage is written to Christians at the church of Corinth. If we take your interpretation of this passage not all Christians at Corinth were gifted with faith.

    Just another example of forcing theology onto scripture.

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    The elect would be those who be able to believe!
     
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    Those who are able to believe are those who hear the gospel. The gospel enables everyone to believe. The gospel is sufgicient.
     
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