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  1. SovereignGrace

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    You can't divorce sin from the sinners. He will cast ppl into hell not just their sins.

    A convicted felon stands before the judge who renders him his sentence. Does the crime(s) he committed cast into prison, or the person? It is because of his law breaking he is sentenced to prison. It is because of sin ppl go to hell, sentenced there by their God.
     
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    We are pleasing to God. Our actions are not always pleasing to God.

    Walk as children of light — 9 for the fruit of the light results in all goodness, righteousness, and truth — 10 discerning what is pleasing to the Lord.

    The Holy Bible: Holman Christian Standard Version. (Nashville: Holman Bible Publishers, 2009), Eph 5:8–10.
     
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    And the only way we are pleasing to God is that we are found in His Son. God's love is only found there.
     
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    no scripture to show your point, but you decide who God loves.

    God created us all, and He loves us all, but some wanted to do things as they wanted instead of as God.

    sorta like your statement
    Psalms 17 28
     
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    Well sure the last verse of the text says "O house of Israel" so what you're here claiming then is God does not universally look at the wicked the same way. Now sure there's the wicked who choose to repent which could be said to be different but that text doesn't specify they would repent. So you're saying God doesn't take pleasure the the death of the wicked if their Jews and they go to hell but he does if they're Gentiles? In the light of ALL that Jesus said and revealed with he was on the earth did he ever, ever draw a distinction that some peoples wickedness he could stomach but not others?

    What you're putting out their Dave is advocating elitism and you've said it yourself based on some physical decadency. So wicked Israelite does evil...but God feels sorry about their demise not pleased in their death...but wicked Gentile he is? And if God is not pleased in the death of a wicked Israelite then that means he didn't want them to go to hell? Isn't that was you say that God's pleasure is always carried out that if God wants something then that's the way it's going to go? And yet he says many Jews will not make heaven their home. (see below)

    I say to you that many will come from the east and the west (Gentiles) to share the banquet with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven. But the sons of the kingdom will be cast into the outer darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.” Matt 8:13
     
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    I've seen you've used ppl in some of your posts. Explain what that means please.
     
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    Ppl = people. Is that what you’re asking?
     
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    Not at all.
    What I'm advocating is that man's idea of love is warped, compared to God's.
    What I'm advocating is that there is a widespread belief among Christians that God loves all men and is not willing that any of them perish, but that they all come to repentance... and that it is based on several out-of-context Scriptures.


    God's word specifically states that He will have mercy and compassion on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens towards Him ( Exodus 33:19, Romans 9:11-18 ).

    According to the Bible, God's love has a specific target...His children, and it can be demonstrated from His word ( Romans 5:1-11, Ephesians 2:4-10 ).


    Back to my request....
    If you believe that God loves all men, please show that he does, by listing the Scriptures that prove it. ;)
     
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    God Hates Wicked People - Tim Challies
     
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    God loves His own in a special and different way!
     
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    Good point on how this is refering to his own Covenant people, and to generally all people!
     
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    How could he not jave holy hatred towards His enemy?
     
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    Because ppl say so. :rolleyes::Cautious:rolleyes::Cautious
     
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    God has to agree with them or He is not worthy of their praise and worship. :rolleyes:
     
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    Show a verse that says Satan was hated before sin. Show a verse that says God hates anyone that has not rejected Him first.
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    The entire physical universe including you is because He loves you

    We certainly are not lovable
     
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    So you position is that God cannot have Hatred at all in His natiure?
     
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    no, we know He hates pride sin, lying tongue , graven ,violence etc.
    reference Proverbs 6
     
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    And those who practice as a lifestyle such things!
     
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    What does it say? maybe after the sin.
     
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