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The Jesuit Origins of Futurism

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by 1689Dave, Aug 30, 2018.

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  1. 1689Dave

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    Jesus did this. I learned it from him
     
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    Oh, I thought that you just were trying to dodge.
     
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    I asked how scripture could relate to contemporary history? Because that is what we are dealing in, when we say the Jesuits fabricated today's most popular end time beliefs.
     
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    So do you consider other people's questions important since you are doing what Jesus did?
     
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    I consider your question important. It tells me a lot about you.
     
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    Did you ever consider anyone's question important enough to answer?
     
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    I already showed you, from the bible, the source of futurism. You just ignored it, as usual.
     
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    Not always.
     
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    Which has been thoroughly disproved.
     
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    But, we all learn from him. And his wisdom in answering questions with questions never failed.
     
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    Not in the least. You have not furnished any documentation for your claims. I gave 3 respected sources so far and have volumes more.
     
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    You cannot lump all futurism together. The Jesuits have their own brand the scriptures know nothing about.
     
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    That is because He is Omniscient. You, on the other hand, are not. (As this thread proves.)
     
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    Who cares? There are no Jesuits in this discussion. All you are doing is trying to poison the well using the old logical fallacy of guilt by association.
     
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    So you admit you don't bother to read what I post, or do you just ignore the truth when it doesn't fit your agenda?

    Here it is again.
     
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    Thanks Tom. I realize this. But futurism goes beyond Premillennialism (Chiliasm). The futurists turn Jesus into Antichrist (Daniel 9:27). Deny Jesus fulfilled the prophecy in the middle of the 70th week on the cross. And then stuff "the gap" like a pita with a revived Roman Empire, rebuilt temple, animal sacrifices (Contrary to Hebrews), a pre-trib rapture and a lot more serious errors. All of Jesuit origins.

    We are all futurists in a sense, looking for Christ's return. But I trust you will see the differences between Futurism Larkin (Dispensational) style, and historic premillennialism. Wick Broomall spelled it out clearly. Worth copying and pasting to your notes.
     
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    I'm providing documented history behind some of today's most popular beliefs.
     
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    Do you follow Jesus? He knew how to alleviate tension by turning claims into self evident questions. I use this technique to avoid accusing people. I can say this or that about others, but I might be wrong. A simple question leaves it open for others to decide.
     
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    Sorry, but you leave the impression that you cannot answer any questions, especially about Scripture, the highest court of appeal. Or the impression that the world is through the looking glass with you and you imperially decline questions.
     
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