Would you stay? 4

Apparently Paul did not trust the God of Abraham, because he rejected the God of Abraham when he came in flesh and blood. Paul must have trusted in a GOD shaped idol that only had the outward appearance of the God of Abraham.

It was only when Paul actually met the God of Abraham on the road to Damascus that he abandoned his GOD shaped idol for the true God of Abraham ... Jesus Christ.

 

There is a lot of theological ground there to cover with that question but I will attempt to put it succinctly. Mankind is a fallen race because of original sin. We are separated from God because of this. Jesus Christ sacrifice on the Cross provides a means by which we can be reunited with the Father (God) through forgiveness of our sins and cleansing us from original sin. Thus restoring us he also provides grace through the working of the Holy Spirit so that we can make those choices (which previously we were unable to because of the slavery of sin) which conforms us to the image of Jesus Christ himself as we are being sanctified. We can only come to God in faith in which we are actually responding to his gift of faith to us. However, faith which only believes and is not acted upon is not really faith. We are given a living faith which informs our thought which in turn conform our decisions to God's will and governs our actions. Thus we are uniting our will to God's will, doing what we were called to do. As Ephesians 2:10 states: " For we are what he has made us, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand to be our way of life."

 

we hold that God imputs the rightiousness of jesus towards us the moment we first beleived unto jesus, the RCC states that God infuses thru the 7 sacraments "saving grace".
First view is pauline Justification, second view is not!

 

Per Rome, the sinner must ontain a spiritual state to allow God to merit them salvation ion the end though, correct?

 

Is the power to save in the cross, or in the sacrament?

 

Was spittle needed to heal the man’s eyes? Did Jesus really need to make mud? No, He didn’t. But He chose to. Just as He chose to give us the Sacraments as a channel of His Grace

 

They are the same, the shedding of His blood on the cross and then the ingestion of His body and His blood in a Holy Communion with Him which is the ultimate in worship. He gave the command, we obey - and you should too.

 

So following this principle laid down in the Old Testament of the Passover Lamb being a foreshadowing of Jesus himself (As Jesus is now recognized as the Lamb of God as stated by John the Baptist), Jesus explains it pretty clearly himself in Matthew 26:26-28 " While they were eating, Jesus took a loaf of bread, and after blessing it he broke it, gave it to the disciples, and said, “Take, eat; this is my body.” 27 Then he took a cup, and after giving thanks he gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; 28 for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins." The Jews and many of Jesus disciples certainly understood the correlation between the Passover Lamb and what Jesus was saying, which is why they had such a problem with it as we see in John 6:51-55 "
51 I am the living bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats of this bread will live forever; and the bread that I will give for the life of the world is my flesh.”

52 The Jews then disputed among themselves, saying, “How can this man give us his flesh to eat?” 53 So Jesus said to them, “Very truly, I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Those who eat my flesh and drink my blood have eternal life, and I will raise them up on the last day; 55 for my flesh is true food and my blood is true drink." The disciples were equally incensed John 6:60-61 "When many of his disciples heard it, they said, “This teaching is difficult; who can accept it?” 61 But Jesus, being aware that his disciples were complaining about it, said to them, “Does this offend you?" We see that to many of his disciples it did which is why in John 6:66 many stopped following him. "Because of this many of his disciples turned back and no longer went about with him." I think that we forget that Jesus is God and created the universe by speaking it into existence as Genesis chapter 1 and John 1:3 states. Jesus was able to multiply food as we see earlier in John 6. So it is a simple matter for him to do as he has said.

 

How much clearer do I need to be? How much clearer does scripture need to be? I am amazed that you are still asking the question?

How much more clear can I be? How much more clear can the Scriptures be? I think I stated it clearly. We participate in the Lords supper as Jesus commanded.

 

I just did. I'll even bold it in my quote. Why do you keep asking the same question over and over again when I clearly answer it? Is it an attempt to say I'm not answering you? Or were you expecting a different answer?

 

Heresy

 

Blasphemy.

 

Matthew26:26. 'And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, blessed and broke it, and gave it to His disciples and said, "take, eat; this is My body."'
Just a quick question: do you take bread, or a wafer? The Greek word is artos. No need for unleavened bread, just bread. But before you criticize the crackers, why the wafer?

Also, Jesus gave it to His disciples and then commanded them to eat. He didn't pop it in their mouths.

FWIW, my church uses real bread. Not because it makes us holier than anyone else; it's just what we do. The important thing is to remember the Lord Jesus (Luke 22:19; 1 Corinthians 11:24-25).

 

I would think participating in the Lord's supper would be the clearest possible explanation. It is often called receiving communion.