Featured How was Christ Forsaken?

was Jesus in His humanity sinless, or corrupted/tainted by the fall of Adam?

 

Sin is not physical or inherited but spiritual

Eze 18:20

The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Mat 5:28

But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

 

All humans ever born, except for Jesus, had the ole sin nature as part of their make up!

 

Where did Adam get his?

 

Remember that Adam had his eyes opened, by now knowing Good and evil, and had now broken fellowship with God and now needed to have the ultimate sacrifice of the Messiah come to pay the sin dent to God?

And the Orthodox Church always has held that Jesus, via the Virgin Birth , was able to bypass the taint and effect of original Sin caused by the fall of Adam, and was the second Adam, sinless in His own humanity, just as Adam was when created!

 

yes, you also had your eyes opened to understand what was right and wrong and became to understand you need a relationship to God

Jesus said if the flesh offend you cut it off rather than risk hell. an easy proof of the importance of the flesh vs eternity

 

Before he became a sinner, Adam had perfect relationship to and with God, but sinned wreaked that!

 

Are you saying that the Bible does not teach that we are now born fallen, with sin natures?

 

So you do deny that we are born with sin natures, due to the original sin of Adam!

 

Adam was not sinless, he was counted innocent until he sinned as a physical being. He was also spiritual.

Jesus was sinless , because He was God (spiritually) as He was man physically.
The Virgin birth cannot apply to sin because we do not get our souls through physical birth and our souls sin,

Read Ezekial 18:20 again, we do not bear the iniquity of our fathers,,, so did not get Adam's sin or iniquity

 

just to throw in , we were born sinners, but not because of Adam

 

Zeke had NOTHING to say about original Sin, nor the fall ands us being corrupted, as his point was that God will look at individual acts, to judge if one is to be killed for a capital crime or not!

 

God judged and found us all guilty in Adam!

 

are you saying individual iniquities of the fathers are born by sons ?

If individual sins are judged , why should I be judged for another's sins?

(actually is was not just capital crimes but all sins)

as shown earlier, Jesus said we sin in our hearts, when our bodies do nothing.

 

Sin is weaved into our very thoughts and into our flesh itself, as the fall corrupted and affects all aspects of us!

 

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