Featured How was Christ Forsaken?

Someone else did. You aren't reading all the posts.

The Scriptures plainly say that God bruised Him and put Him to grief. Man was merely the instrument in His hands.

No one is separated from God. One either experiences His wrath and indignation, or His love and mercy. Where do you go from an omnipresent God? Whither shall I flee from thy presence?

 

God is the active agent. God did the judging. God did the cursing. You think the curses of man are anything?

 

Was the Son incommunicado with the Father his God for three days and three nights?

Psalms 6:5 For in death there is no remembrance of thee: in the grave who shall give thee thanks? - Did that verse apply to Jesus for three days and three nights? 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
1 Cor 15:3,4 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again <to what) the third day according to the scriptures:

John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

 

And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

If I make my bed in Sheol, behold, You are there. I agree the Father the living God was there.

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, (And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?) Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

Forsaken = to leave in straits, leave helpless, / not, totally abandoned, utterly forsaken / IMHO

How long was the life giving spirit of Jesus in the hands of the Father and when was Christ, Jesus, quickened with the Spirit.
Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

For in death there is no remembrance of thee; in Sheol who can give thee praise?

 

Just so. We need to be careful here, and be aware of the omni-presence of God.
We read that the Lord departed from Saul (1 Samuel 16:14a), but that did not mean that He was not aware of Saul or had no dealings with him at all (v.14b). What it does mean is that God had no communication with him, and he received no comfort from Him (1 Samuel 28:6).

that, I believe is what our Lord experienced as He made satisfaction for our sins before God.

Now according to A.W. Pink (The Satisfaction of Christ), Christ's sufferings were:
1, A Federal Work.
2. A Substitutionary Work.
3. A Penal Work.
4. A Sacrificial Work.

I want just to look very briefly at the first two of these.
A Federal Work. Christ as the second Adam came to save His people; those whom the Father had given Him (John 6:39 etc.). There is a legal, covenantal union between Christ and His people. 'Now to Abraham and his Seed were the promises made' Galatians 3:16), but the Seed is first of all Christ, and then those who are in Him (1 Corinthians 15:22; Galatians 3:7). So what Christ has done, we have done; what has happened to Christ has happened to us. 'I have been crucified with Christ' (Galatians 2:20); 'If [or 'since'] then, you were raised with Christ.......' (Colossians 3:1; c.f. Ephesians 2:5-6).

A Substitutionary Work. Christ was the Surety for His people because He was their Substitute. Their debts became His debts; their sins, His sins; and their punishment, His punishment. Are His people due by divine justice eternal separation from God? Then Christ their Substitute is due the same by the same justice. 'The chastisement for our peace was upon Him.'

Eliphaz the Temanite asked, "Whoever perished being innocent? Or where were the righteous cut off?" (Job 4:7). We may confidently answer, no one and nowhere! Christ was personally innocent and righteous, but as our Covenant Head and as our Substitute, He was legally guilty and suffered the just punishment for all the ones for whom He was Surety.

Pink also says that Christ's sacrifice was
a. A Ransoming One.
b. A Priestly One.
c. A Propitiatory One.
d. An Expiatory One.

It might make our discussions more fruitful and less acrimonious if we use these headings.

 

Lol. Who is the lawgiver?

 

God on the cross, suffering separation from God is spiritual death and as a man dying is physical death

The was suffering to live and die as a man but incurred the sin of the world to bear it on the cross.

 

Yet you ignore your own _________istic philosophy and lens(es). Hmmmmm..

The Archangel

 

Yet Jesus pleads with the Father to "remove this cup." The cup is an unmistakable symbol of God's judgment. It was God who did this to Christ. Believers are accepted because of His condemnation.

The Archangel

 

that is fine,,

why did you not respond about the Ga Bulldogs?