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The Cure for Calvinism

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Ran the Man, Feb 26, 2019.

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  1. Reynolds

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    You think a Christian can behave the way Cooper does in his concerts? His lyrics?
     
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    Really? How so? John MacArthur has always struck me as being a jerk. He's very pompous, in my opinion. Ace is a pretty humble guy. He's battled alcoholism and been sober for 15 years, as I've heard. So he knows his weakness. By the way, He's a Lutheran.
    "Those who have been forgiven little, love little. Those who have been forgiven much, love much.
     
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    Im not talking about Alice Cooper. I'm talking about Ace Frehley. The guy was raised Lutheran. I'm not saying he's a born again Christian, I'm saying even a rocker is nicer than John MacArthur, who is in my opinion, a total jackass.
     
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    I suppose so. You indicated he is now a Christian yet he still performs those shows. Do you think that his performances disqualify his faith?
     
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    I know he claims to be a Christian. I did not know he still performs those shows. I would have very little reservation in saying his fruit does not attest to him being a Christian.
     
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    If John MacArthur ran things, music would be bland.
    Hey Jon, I read an article about Elvis. It said he got a lot of flack from church leaders, politicians, etc in every town he went to, but after those people actually met him, they couldn't say a bad thing about him.
     
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    Neither did Calvin's. And especially not Luther's.
     
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    Hitler was. Catholic.

    Comparing the guitar player of KISS to Jon MCaarthur?
     
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    If you say so.
     
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    Alice Cooper is described as an active member of Camelback Bible Church of Paradise Valley, Arizona:

    AZ Central • Entertainment

    (his pastor Tim Savage is a Council Member with Mohler, Dever, Piper, etc. of Calvinist fraternity 'The Gospel Coalition')
     
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    So he's a Calvinist. See? He's ok.
     
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    I don't know. I know Christians who like horror movies. Cooper's niche was to be the "bad guy" in a horror show. But in interviews he insists there was always a line he would not cross.

    Today we have Christians enjoying shows like The Walking Dead. Does this mean they are not Christian?
     
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    I love zombie movies. And I'm prepared for them if they ever do break out for real. :)
     
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    Comparing Hitler to a nice guy from the Bronx?
     
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    Ace is just a regular guy. He's settled and has a family. What's wrong with him?
     
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    Well rlvaughn mentioned a book in the Music Ministry Forum that might interest you brethren... Called Turn, Turn, Turn by Steve Turner... Popular Songs Inspired By The Bible... My wife asked me what I wanted for my last birthday and I said just buy me this book, and she did ... Maybe cost all of twenty bucks... Well worth it... I enclosed the link... Oh Lord Rock On!.. Brother Glen:Cool

    Turn, Turn, Turn
     
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    Jesus said for us to get the beam out of our eye. In modern language, it probably means getting the beam out of somewhere else.
    Listen to more rock and roll. Get off that namby pamby so called contemporary christian music.
    Find a nice bar with all kinds of people.
     
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    Watching vs performing and becoming an open stumbling block for others.
     
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    No difference.
     
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    You are using a photo of him in his high watermark of sin.
     
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