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The Cure for Calvinism

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Ran the Man, Feb 26, 2019.

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  1. Reynolds

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    Huge difference.
     
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    In a way. It is different to commit adultry and to lust - to kill and to hate. But not so much in the scheme of things.

    Most do not know the actors in tge Walking Dead. Most do know someone who is a fan. Which one is more apt to cause another to stumble?
     
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    Those are platform boots. :Laugh
     
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    If it were not for the actors, there would be no show and there would be no fans.
     
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    If no one made beer no one would get drunk. It is not the Christian who has a beer at the restaurant who makes his brother stumble but the makers of the beer. I do not buy it.
     
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    I buy it. Can a Christian be a stripper? Porno star? Prostitute?
     
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    But we are not talking about that. We are talking about performing. No drugs. No cussing. No satanic messages. But in a horror type genre.
     
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    Ok, stripper and porn star. Well leave hooker out.
     
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    Horror genre. Stripper. Porn star.

    I disagree they are the same.
     
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    I see no difference.
     
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    Actually, @Reynolds , I am not a fan of the horror genre. I do like Alice Cooper, but not really for the whole "shock rock" thing. I understand the reason he chose the genre, and I appreciate that he never "crossed the line" when it comes to his lyrics or performance. I also understand why people would object to his act. I don't understand that it would cause a brother to stumble. That part does not make much sense to me, except that everyone thinks what they find objectionable would make someone else stumble (whether it's alcohol, lottery tickets, drums, rhythm in music, bright clothes, shorts, long hair, short hair....whatever - name it and disclaim it).
     
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    I suspected you wouldn't.

    The church down the road from me (one that I like visiting) sees no difference between pornography and women wearing blue jeans. Like I said, it's a "name it and disclaim it" mentality.
     
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    David....he cannot do anything else because if he could he would have.
     
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    Why? and if i use a photo of a materialistic pastor who makes half a million a year, and has a net worth of 12,000,000US and has never suffered, lives in luxury, and spouts false doctrine, am I righteous?
     
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    Let me guess....you see where it says...everyone....but do not read the whole passage as it describes the everyone, as the sanctified seed of Abraham, the church, the children given from the Father to the Son...where is this post?
    As I hunt for this post, why not show us why the 1689 is not biblical....
     
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    Now I remember why I take extended breaks from posting here.
     
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    What do you mean? What about John MacArthur's sins? Ace is just a musician. He's not even half as rich as MacArthur. His net worth is somewhere around 1 million.
     
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    Having wealth is not a sin.
     
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    Neither is playing a guitar. But being a pompous person like MacArthur is. And using the gospel to become wealthy like he has done is too.
     
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    What justifies this charge?

    Proof?
     
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