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Faith is God given in the sense that we are created by God and therefore can have faith.

 

The basic problem with this view is that it presents faith of humans as an attribute that was not corrupted by the fall, and sin.

To accept that human faith was in fact part of the fallen and incapable of righteous response, an alternative was necessary.

That lead to the invention of prevenient/preceding grace.

Not a single verse in the Scriptures support this human construct. To avoid the truth of Scriptures, people will invent and believe whatever supports their thinking especially when the it involves the matters concerning the eternity’s estate.

 

Confession is a work of faith. The requirement of salvation is the faith alone in Christ alone.

(Compare Romans 10:13-14, Asking and faitn & Mark 16:16, Baptism and faith. In any case of a work of faith, the work is not the requirement, the faitb alone in Christ alone is the requirement.)

 

Scripture no where says that. The church in revelation was said, by Jesus, to be dead and yet he expected them to change. The Prodigal Son was said to be dead and yet he returned.

 

What became of the Laodicea church? Did they repent?

Why would Christ spew them out if they were not in?

Again, here are believers who drifted and Christ was warning of discipline to come.


The prodigal was a son, a son who drifted, but repented and returned.

Neither is an applicable example to the unregenerate.

 

I've heard certain people interpret Romans 10:9,10 in such a way that means we can believe unto righteousness today, but are still lost until we confess Christ, which may be next week and then we are finally saved next week, but is that what Paul is talking about here? I don't believe so. Also, someone who is moot (unable to speak) would remain lost according to that interpretation of Romans 10:9,10 for failing to verbally confess with their mouth.

Confessing with our mouth that Jesus is Lord and believing in our heart that God raised Him from the dead are not two separate steps to salvation but are chronologically together. Romans 10:8 - But what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, in your mouth and in your heart" (TOGETHER) that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, (notice the reverse order from verse 9-10) - that if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Confess/believe; believe/confess.

1 Corinthians 12:3 - Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except BY the Holy Spirit. There is divine influence or direct operation of the Holy Spirit in the heart of a person when confessing Jesus as Lord. This confession is not just a simple acknowledgment that Jesus is the Lord (even the demons believe that), but is a deep personal conviction that Jesus is that person's Lord and Savior. So simply believing in our head (and not in our heart) that God raised Him from the dead does not result in righteousness and simply giving "lip service" to the words "Jesus is Lord" not by the Holy Spirit is not unto salvation.

 

Scripture never states that man was effected by this so called fall so that he is unable to respond to the gospel. Not even once.
MB

 

Where does Scripture say this?

 

Really? Nobody comes to Christ unless drawn by the Father. Nobody seeks after God. None are righteous. Looks like Scripture does say something about it.

 

Show where it says man is not able to come to Christ. Nothing of what you said means anything with out scripture. Not to mention that most of what you are speaking about is what a fool said in his heart. Paul never stated this is the state of the natural man. Paul was quoting scripture Psalms 14 read it you might learn something.
MB

 

Rom_12:3 For I say, through the grace given to me, to every one who is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think. But set your mind to be right-minded, even as God has dealt to every man the measure of faith.
MB

 

John 6:44

You might want to review your position on this.

 

How exactly does this say that we can have faith simply because we are created? It doesn't say that at all.

 

Does it state any part of man was not corrupted?

 

No man in his natural state is corrupt.in fact his flesh is still corrupt after Salvation It just does not say his corruption prevents him from seeking God's forgiveness or Salvation by faith.
MB

 

The verse in question states that faith has been dealt to every man..We all can place our faith where we want to. To say man cannot have faith until he is regenerated is just plainly wrong.
MB

 

It says faith has been dealt to every man? Romans 12:3? Are we reading the same book here? Who is the "you" in verse 3 referring to? Well, it is the people to whom the book was written. And to whom was the book written? The answer is in Romans 1:7 and it is not every man.

 

MB, would you kindly restate this. I have trouble following your thought line.

You say, “No man in his natural state is corrupt”. But then say “.in fact his flesh is still corrupt after Salvation”

Seems contradictory which is why I ask for clarification. I think I overlooked the missing coma and doing so lost your meaning.

What do you consider is the condition of Adam as he was dismissed from Eden?

Was he a fully and completely unrighteousness man unacceptable to regain what was discarded?

Is there any part of unregenerate man that escapes condemnation (condemned already)?

Did Adam seek restoration, or did he hide from God and blame others?

Who sought out the other in Eden?

The Adam of Eden who is the only one who regularly took an evening stroll in face to face sharing surely had something of worthiness, when dismissed from Eden. In what capacity did he not loose every privilege of Devine fellowship outside of first offering blood sacrifice?