Featured A question for my fellow Calvinists

To my knowledge, I have never read one word written by 'Calvin', much less a sentence. Was I supposed to?

My understanding of the children of God who perished by religious persecution, is that I number myself among those groups who may have met with persecution, by Calvin and other 'Reformers'.

It appears that those who predated 'Reformers', were severly persecuted by 'Reformers', at times.

And so, that may resume right here, at this moment in History, on these pages.

I was never exposed to any need for Bible Doctrines to be 'reformed'.

And, as a rule, the 'reforms' are adrift from various Doctrines I see in The Bible, practically, doctrinally, and organizationally, but that can only be expected, from having come out of a system of teaching that is purely Satanic and then, in turn, seeking to bring 'refromation to that'.

I have heard the name, "Calvin" , mentioned once every year or two, but there is no devotion to him that I was ever exposed to.

There is an influence, apparently, from his writings in areas of Christianity and, specifically, a recrimination toward, or a devote adherence to 'Total Depravity', which brings an association to any "Bible Believer", with Calvin, at times, simply because he must have taught that Jesus "has the Words of Life".

O.K. God told Adam he would die.
And he did, but he was still walking and talking and hiding and being ashamed.
So, the idea that Adam was dead in tresspasses and sins has been around since then.

I have been meaning to check whether Calvin uses any form of the word, "millienial", and if so, half of his Bible understanding is sunk. I can't imagine why any Christian ever has used any word like that, and many others. But that one just mostly causes people to skip half the Bible, or try to 'teach' something in a way that is just saying, "they don't know".

Oh well. Some chick was hating me, saying I was a Calvinists and I just said, "thou saith". Whatever.

I know he didn't have a very high regard for 'my kind', all things being even.

That ought not be.

 

Any label will do.
Calvinist
Particular Baptist
Monergist
Baptist
Sovereign Grace Baptist.
Biblicist
All can work.

 

Well I suppose I'm one of the nameless ones, although well...I do have a name good friend. But here's the so what.....I and other Non-Calvinists have been told many times from Calvinists that if one would like to know their beliefs one should go to Calvinists and find them out and not go to Calvinists critics.

Well....we do that....in good faith we study up on Calvin himself and current leaders and ask you and others to give account for their teachings and it's thought of as a strange mystery as to why we should bring up what they say? So who exactly are we to learn Calvinism from? Each one of you individually have your own right version? So what is your message? And are you any way accountable to it whatever it might be?

 

I looked at the post and it was very vague.
I have not heard of anyone thinking this is the case at all.

 

For someone who holds to Calvinism, disparaging it comes rather easy.

 

Good point Reformed
I do not recall being in any Church or bible conference among Calvinistic brothers where the discussion turned dark and ominous and everyone viewed each other with suspicion, as wolves in sheep's clothing, or as infiltrating Christianity? What an odd thought

 

I have not heard this in any Calvinistic circles I have ever travelled in

 

Determinist?

Predestinarian?

Gomarist?

Necessitarian?

Augustinian/Manichaean Sect?

 

Yes....that is how the term has been used in my lifetime.
Some would hold out for a more nuanced description, but in the normal course of things that is how it is used and understood.
If you attempt to avoid these labels those who oppose the teaching use it to make accusations and carnal reasons to try and discredit the doctrine itself.
The labels save time. We are all still learning so growth and different levels of knowledge and gifting are to be expected

 

It depends on the time and place whether or not I claim Calvinism as my theological position. The term Calvinism polarizes the situation in a negative way with many. And it involves clearing Calvin of the "murder charges". And "God sending pleading repentant sinners to hell" charges before any mention of Christ, already rejected if from a Calvinistic position can occur. So I've experienced more gains in the forums by claiming Christian only. And more unwillingness to consider what I say where I'm a Calvinist.

 

High Calvinist is not a term unique to my vocabulary.. A high Calvinist is NOT a hyper Calvinist.