How Free Will Turns the Gospel into Law and Grace into Works.

Well ladies and gentlemen. I guess the question that needs to be asked is can you buy into a concept that you have to free wills. One that isn't free and the other which is and yet they BOTH ARE free will. I don't mean to be unkind but do you find this emoticon comes to mind?

So seeing we haven't seen as yet any other Calvinists seek to correct him I'd suggest that might reveal plainly the inconsistencies of their whole way of thinking. Readers you can be the judge.

 

Belief is a fruit of the Holy Spirit too[/QUOTE]

Knowing what was on the jailers mind is shown by his question of how to be saved. Yes Faith is also a gift and a fruit how ever we need faith in order to be saved. Unless you think you can be saved with out it.
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You are saying the Phillipian jailer was already a believer. Because he was a believer he asked Paul how to be saved.

The flip side of your assertion is that the jailer would NOT have asked Paul how to be saved if he was an unbeliever.

How does this make sense?

It sounds like you are saying Paul was telling the jailer, "Hey, you're already a believer. You are saved. Chill."

 

He was saved according to Jesus, (he believed) or he would not have asked Paul for directions. Paul assured him that those who believe in Jesus are saved.[/QUOTE]
No one ask how to be saved after they have already experienced being born again. Simply because they know how. You are trying to twist scripture to make it fit your doctrine. The jailer asked because He wanted to be saved. Jesus didn't make any comments at the time because He was at the right hand of the Father. Your twisted understanding of scripture is finding you out.
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Yes. In fact that would probably be the only reason, he would ask.

What makes you think he was already a believer?

 

Don't answer my question with a question. Just answer the question.

Why do you think the jailer was already a believer?

 

Great, here we go with the avoidance again...

Why do you think the jailer was already a believer?

 

I see. So, in John 3 Nicodemus was already born again, but he asked Jesus, simply for late night conversational reasons, "How can a man be born when he is old?" and "How can these things be?"

 

Paul and Silas are imprisoned because they cast a demon out of a young woman who had said, “These men are the servants of the Most High God, who proclaim to us the way of salvation.” The magistrates arrest them, beat them bloody and threw them naked into an inner prison cell put them in shackles and command the jailer to keep watch over them.

Paul and Silas proceed to sing hymns to God. Suddenly an earthquake shakes the prison, the shackles fall off all the prisoners. The jailer, fearing he will be executed because the prisoners we was supposed to be securing have surely escaped, draws his sword and is about to kill himself. Paul yells out, "Do yourself no harm, we're all here!" Whereupon the jailer asks Paul and Silas, "What must I do to be saved?"

31 So they said, “Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.”
32 Then they spoke the word of the Lord to him and to all who were in his house.
33 And he took them the same hour of the night and washed their stripes. And immediately he and all his family were baptized. 34 Now when he had brought them into his house, he set food before them; and he rejoiced, having believed in God with all his household.

Here we see that the jailer and his household were not believers until after they had heard the gospel preached to them.

So why do you think the jailer was already a believer when the scripture clearly says he was not?