Featured John 3:5 Is Not Requiring Baptism For Salvation

I am talking about Bible concepts that are of God.

Manmade concepts you're mentioning were invented as perversions of God's Bible Design and Teachings, by Satan, to deceive.

'baptism' is never mentioned in The Bible with an association to Salvation.

I have never seen anything related to an individual 'spiritually baptised'.

 

I am talking about Bible concepts that are of God.

Manmade concepts you're mentioning were invented as perversions of God's Bible Design and Teachings, by Satan, to deceive.

"the Church in general, the body of Christ,"

is not Taught in The Bible.

It never has been.

There has never been anything like that as far as God is Concerned.

 

What is "well...", etc., supposed to be saying?

 

I am talking about Bible concepts that are of God, if that is O. K. with you.

I am a Bible Believer.

 

". . . For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. . . ." -- 1 Corinthians 12:13.

 

So is @Yeshua1. And so am I. When we disagree amoung ourselves, we are making different presuppositions as to what we think we understand the Bible to say.

 

Do some claiming to be a Bible believer's ignore what John 1 records?

19And this is the testimony of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, “Who are you?” 20He confessed, and did not deny, but confessed, “I am not the Christ.” 21And they asked him, “What then? Are you Elijah?” He said, “I am not.” “Are you the Prophet?” And he answered, “No.” 22So they said to him, “Who are you? We need to give an answer to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?” 23He said, “I am the voice of one crying out in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way of the Lord,’ as the prophet Isaiah said.”

24(Now they had been sent from the Pharisees.) 25They asked him, “Then why are you baptizing, if you are neither the Christ, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?” 26John answered them, “I baptize with water, but among you stands one you do not know, 27even he who comes after me, the strap of whose sandal I am not worthy to untie.” 28These things took place in Bethany across the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

29The next day he saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world! 30This is he of whom I said, ‘After me comes a man who ranks before me, because he was before me.’ 31I myself did not know him, but for this purpose I came baptizing with water, that he might be revealed to Israel.” 32And John bore witness: “I saw the Spirit descend from heaven like a dove, and it remained on him. 33I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”
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I, as a Bible believer, can certainly state that not all baptism is with H20 (water).

Here is another that is not about water at all.

18For Christ also suffered once for sins, the righteous for the unrighteous, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh but made alive in the spirit, 19in which he went and proclaimed to the spirits in prison, 20because they formerly did not obey, when God’s patience waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight persons, were brought safely through water. 21Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, 22who has gone into heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities, and powers having been subjected to him.​

Peter is clearly not declaring water saves, but the work of the SAME Holy Spirit corresponds to both Christ and the believer. Believers are alive because Christ is alive, and both Christ and believers benefit "through the resurrection of Jesus Christ." Such baptism "now saves you" because the experience of the life and resurrection, not because one got wet.

Baptism in the simplest terms means to be immersed.

One may be immersed in a number of ways that do not involve water.
Here are a few:

study
work
fire
emotions
thought​

A Bible believer will acknowledge that "baptizo" though often associated with water carries no meaning obliging exclusivity to water and is simply used to mean immersing or being immersed.

Does anyone baptize a turkey for thanksgiving?

 

That is a Bible verse.

 

Yep.

When presuppositions aren't able to be found in the text, they should be dropped like a hot potato.

Bible Believers are not Called to ferociously demand that Doctrines be invented from misinterpretation of prepositions, new definitions of words be made up, and normal, everyday, meanings ignored.

 

Bible Believers are not Called to ferociously demand for a presupposition that Jesus Christ Did Not Build what He Called, "My church", however, that is necessary to maintain some false doctrines, in that realm, i.e., non-Biblical.

Being weary in that ferociousness may be the result.

The Bible defines, "one baptism", with four essential elements required for that Biblically Stated Baptism, to be Scriptural.

From that Bible Definition, there are other symbolic and figurative usages.

All may be ignored, by using the presupposition that the significance of 'baptism', in The Bible, is exclusively letterized, as, 'immersion'.

Once, it is presumed there is not a specific 'Ordanance' allowed, by God, to be Biblically Defined...since He is also assumed to not be capible of Originating a Dinine Institution, like the Tabernacle, or Temple, and, if He Did, WHEN DID GOD START LOOKING AT DETAILS., about such Holy Places... (?)

... THEN, Satan usurps that Position of The Author of The Bible and does the opposite, through inspiring the weakness of individual's fleshly thinking that is not equal to God.

Satan invents and develops his own ORDANANCES, by defining, 'baptism', as it appears in The Word of God, to be literal and not figurative, or symbolic pictures of that which were are Given, by Divine Interpretation.

"Spirit baptism".

"baptised in The Spirit, for Salvation".

"Baptism Saves, Spiritually, in some sense.

"The Holy Spirit Has Baptised something, ever."

"There is something Saved souls can be or are baptised into", other than A Bible church membership.

"Baptism is The Arc".

Then, I 'm not sure what these are trying to invent, or not invent:

I am probably supposed to stick,' baptism', somewhere in my head and assume it is all about 'baptism', in some way, when I read;

"Peter is clearly not declaring water saves, but the work of the SAME Holy Spirit corresponds to both Christ and the believer."

Or.

"Believers are alive because Christ is alive, and both Christ and believers benefit "through the resurrection of Jesus Christ."

But, I don't see it.

And I don't buy Satan's non-existant perversions, as Bible Teachings, for the same reason.

 

Immersion which corresponds to being "brought safely through water," is understood to be water immersion. Which the Apostle Paul wrote, ". . . Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. . . ." -- Romans 6:4. Where as Noah and his family being in the ark were literally saved from the world that was, ". . . Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished: . . ." -- 2 Peter 3:6.

 

"Spirit baptism".

"baptised in The Spirit, for Salvation".

"Baptism Saves, Spiritually, in some sense.

"The Holy Spirit Has Baptised something, ever."

"There is something Saved souls can be or are baptised into", other than A Bible church membership.

"Baptism is The Arc".

 

Noah and his family were in The Arc.

 

The 'water', there in that verse, is mistakenly discombobulated, addled, baffled, bamboozled, beat, befogged, befuddled, bemused, bewildered, buffaloed, confounded, confused, disoriented, flummoxed, foxed, fuddled, got, graveled (or gravelled), mazed, muddied, muddled, mystified, perplexed, posed, puzzled, vexed by Jesus' inclusion of the word, 'Spirit', in the same verse, right?

"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."

 

The Holy Spirit has never baptised anything.[/QUOTE]
the Church is the Body and bride of Christ, made up of all the saved from all times, as not just saved Baptists!

 

You must not have read paul in ephesians then!

 

All of us here are that who are saved, even those who are not Baptists!

 

The Holy Spirit has never baptised anything.[/QUOTE]
Paul stated that we were all baptized and sealed by the same Holy Spirit into jesus and His Body, the Church of Christ, correct?