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How Strongly Do You Hold to Your Doctrinal Beliefs?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Reformed, Jan 4, 2020.

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  1. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    @Van did you ignore this post on purpose or did you not see it?
     
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    See post 96
     
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    See post 64
     
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    Either God gave that saving faith to Abraham as a gift, or else Abraham choosing God was God saving him by rewarding him for something that Abraham now did! He contributed to his salvation.
     
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    If that faith was not a gift from God, then Abraham did something to earn and merit salvation, by choosing to exercise his faith, so works mixed with grace here per Van!
     
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    The gift of faith is false doctrine. That God credits the faith of some believers as righteousness is true doctrine. I supported by view from scripture, Romans 4.
     
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    Paul disagrees with you on this, so God does also!
    Ephesians 2:8-10
     
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    Post 96 didn't really tell me anything. Van where does faith come from?
     
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    Yeah that didn't actually answer the question.
     
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    You have made that false claim over and over, but never supported it. Ephesians 2:8-10 supports my view.
     
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    Asked and answered. Personal incredulity as rebuttal is a logical fallacy.
     
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    The question was answered. Please stop wasting posts with taint so posts.
     
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    No Van, it actually wasn't. How is it within the semantic range and proper to add the word yet in the translation? You did not answer it you just said your beliefs say so so it must be so.
     
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    You can claim it was answered all you want. Why not just spell it out? WHERE does faith come from?
     
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    Only in a delusional mind.
     
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    Falsehood, no quote.
     
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    Asked and answered.
     
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    This is all they have folks, insult and disparage, see such posts as waving the white flag of surrender.
    Adding words that change the message come from the presumptions of the translators. Adding words that clarify the message come from God's truth.
     
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    Paul stated to us in the Greek that both the faith and salvation are to us the gift of God in Christ, correct?
     
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    Like the word yet?
     
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