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Proverbs 30:4 (see Pro.30:1) and Isaiah 9:6 are both prophecies.

I was not aware of Dr. Martin's view although I know the book, thank you.
I got that view from reading and studying my Bible.

 

I answered that in talking with @rlvaughn at end of post #79

 

Fine.

Strong's G1096 γίνομαι ginomai ghin'-om-ahee
A prolonged and middle form of a primary verb; to cause to be (“gen” -erate), that is, (reflexively) to become (come into being), used with great latitude (literally, figuratively, intensively, etc.): - arise be assembled, be (come, -fall, -have self), be brought (to pass), (be) come (to pass), continue, be divided, be done, draw, be ended, fall, be finished, follow, be found, be fulfilled, + God forbid, grow, happen, have, be kept, be made, be married, be ordained to be, partake, pass, be performed, be published, require, seem, be showed, X soon as it was, sound, be taken, be turned, use, wax, will, would, be wrought.
Total KJV occurrences: 672

 

He was eternally begotten of/by the Father.... he is the Word of God....

 

Only problem with that is that he was born in the gospels, in Bethlehem, in Israel, in the days of Augustus, 2,000 years ago; not in eternity...but hey, when couldn't philosophy overrule the scriptures? Right?

 

Still think that the biggest objection people have towards only begotten is that to them it seems to denote Jesus was a created being, like JW hold!

 

I am referring to his Deity/divine nature, as his humanity was physical; born 2000 years ago only!

 

One of the foremost Systematic theologians of present times, standard text book many seminaries!

 

The Word as always been begotten from by the Farher, and is Himself fully God, correct?

 

Which is why I've never heard of it!

 

last time I checked, the translators in the Nas/Nkjv were not Kjvo, nor was Dr Robertson nor those scholars in BDAG!

 

Of course, and the expression the only begotten SON of God is a reference primarily-though-not-exclusively to his humanity.

No one on this thread is denying the deity of Christ.

 

Incorrect.

Correct.



Your sentence is an paradox. If the Word of God is fully God, then he cannot be being-begotten to begin with!



Have you read the preceding posts?

 

Still seems that biggest problem some have with only begotten is that it makes to them Jesus seem to be a JW created being!

 

I am saying that some who object to term only begotten thinks that somehow denies Jesus is God!

 

yes, and the Father being the source/origin of Jesus does not make Him created, just tells to us that he is indeed very God of very God!

 

I have my issues with him, as he is I believe a "moderate Calvinist" as holds to 3 of 5 points of grace, but still worth consulting!

 

hence my words "primarily though not exclusively"

And of course it doesn't make him created.

Again, no one on this thread is denying the deity of Christ.

 

I agree, but my main contention is that only begotten does NOT mean Jesus is a Created being!

 

What does the Holy Ghost have to do with meanings of words? Does God write words with different meanings than what they actually mean? Some mystical interpretation?