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Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by Rippon2, Feb 20, 2020.

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    Wow! The ESV said "people".
     
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    Yes, 66 more times than the ESV to be exact.
     
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    1) ESV : 1622
    2) NASB : 1564
    3) CSB : 1351
    4) LEB : 1164
    5) NET : 1142
    6) NRSV : 1123
    7) CEB : 1119
    8) NIV : 1103
    9) NLT : 949

    Nice that the difference between #4 (LEB) and # 8 (NIV) is just 61.
     
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    1) ESV : 520
    2) NASB : 488
    3) CSB : 265
    4) LEB : 108
    5) NET : 96
    6) NIV : 49
    7) CEB : 35
    8) NRSV : 28
    9) NLT : 23

    Notice that the difference between #4 (LEB) and #6 (NIV) is only 59.

    The difference between #9 (NLT) and #4 (LEB) is just 85.

    Yet the span between the LEB and CSB is a lot --157. So there is
    a commonality among the translations # 9 and # 4. The differences
    are slight.
     
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    1) NASB : 3767
    2) ESV : 2913
    3) LEB : 2689
    4) CSB : 2672
    5) NRSV : 2664
    6) NET : 2603
    7) NIV : 2544
    8) CEB : 2449
    9) NLT : 2358
     
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    That makes no sense.
     
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    1) NASB : 2103
    2) ESV : 1137
    3) LEB : 948
    4) CSB : 890
    5) NRSV : 843
    6) NET : 836
    7) NIV : 753
    8) NLT : 694
    9) CEB : 650

    You will notice that the difference between #4 (CSB) and #7 (NIV) is 137.
    But the difference between the CSB and the NASB is a whopping 1213.
     
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    It's pure math. It's not a matter of opinion.
     
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    The ESV says people 66 more times than the ESV. Thats not math, thats stupidity.
     
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    1) CSB & ESV : 1
    2) NSASB : 4
    3) NLT : 12
    4) NET : 19
    5) NIV : 20
    6) LEB : 23
    7) NRSV : 73
    8) CEB : 84

    The LEB is right in the middle with regard to the usage of this term.
     
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    1) NASB : 5724
    2) ESV : 5699
    3) NRSV : 5673
    4) LEB : 5653
    5) CSB : 5391
    6) NET : 5256
    7) CEB : 5171
    8) NIV : 4672
    9) NLT : 4642
     
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    1) LEB & NASB : 526
    2) ESV : 457
    3) NRSV : 426
    4) CSB : 393
    5) NET : 390
    6) NIV : 346
    7) CEB : 331
    8) NLT : 323

    The difference between #4 (CSB) and #8 (NLT) is 70.
    But the difference between #1 and #4 is 133.
     
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    1) NASB : 11
    2) LEB & CSB : 18
    3) NET : 18
    4) NIV : 49
    5) CEB : 53
    6) NRSV : 59
    7) NLT : 149

    The NIV is again right in the middle statistically.
     
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    Only to 'people' from parts of Georgia and Alabama. :)
     
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    Now this word is a hard one to classify. Does a greater usage of the word imply a proclivity to inclusive
    language, or something else? I'll just rank them from greater to lesser usage.

    1) NRSV : 252
    ) ESV: 229
    3) NASB : 216
    4) CSB : 197
    5) LEB : 177
    6) CEB : 162
    7) NIV : 155
    8) NET : 91
    NLT : 30
     
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    Here is an excellent NT example of thoughtful translation. This choice expands the message beyond male slave holders, to present the idea we should not use our relationship with our siblings in Christ, for special favor.

    My only comment would be to wonder whether this choice is superior to changing "brothers" to "brothers and sisters" when siblings in Christ are in view.

    [Post 21 reformatted to correct error]
     
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    1) NIV : 178
    2) NET : 181
    3) NLT : 187
    4) CSB : 206
    5) NASB : 283
    6) CEB : 284
    7) NRSV 299
    8) LEB : 322
     
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    1) NLT : 30
    2) NASB : 32
    3) NIV : 45
    4) NET, CSB : 50
    5) LEB, NRSV : 63
    6) CEB : 74
     
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    1) NLT : 186
    2) CEB : 190
    3) NET : 197
    4) CSB : 199
    5) NIV : 210
    6) LEB : 222
    7) NASB : 223
    8) NRSV : 234
     
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