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  1. Yeshua1

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    we Baptists, splinters off the "one true Church"
     
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    there are some common points that all Bible Cults have in common...
    have the Bible, but their own leaders/prophets/apostles have equal authority to the scriptures, and many times even superior to them
    Seen as being the true church
    Salvation found only in their church
    teaching false Gospel, mixing faith and good works
    So Mormons/JW/Sda/Rcc all fitr the bill!
     
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    they see themselves as being the true remnant Church
    They elevate Ellen White to be on par with Bible Apostles for doctrines
    They require OT diet laws be followed
    They require Sabbath observance
    They deny eternal Hell/hold to Soul Sleep
    They deny Gospel of grace, as they hold to final investigative judgment, where god determines if the person upheld Sda doctrines well enough to continue to merit salvation
    Cult, same as Mormons and JW!
     
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    I hold to a universal "catholic" church made up of all of the redeemed, but not the Church of Rome!
     
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    A sare those among us in the Sda!
     
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    What you can find is that the early church doctrines and practices were taken from the Apostles and scriptures themselves, so we as Baptists are following that!
     
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    This is a joke, yes?


    Other than believing in baptismal regeneration, the Eucharist as the actual body and blood of Christ, the efficacy of the Sacraments, the ordained episcopate, priesthood and diaconate, the practice of celibacy and clerical continence, Apostolic succession as necessary to safeguard the faith and valid Sacraments, the bishop of Rome as the authority over the Church universal, and the authority of the Church, I guess you could say the early Church were Baptists!
     
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    Sda teach the Gospel per Ellen White though, not that of the Apostles of Christ!
     
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    Bottom line on the RCC is that she at the Council of Trent declared her theology to be apostate!
     
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    They were Baptistlike in their founding era, before Rome mixed paganism/State/scriptures in unholy union!
     
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    Funny, the greatest Calvinist of all was Apostle Paul ,and did not know he was a Nazi!
     
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    We confess the scriptures alone!
     
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    No, its to reject the scriptures themselves what both Rome and Sda do!
     
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    The ONLY creed and confess that we must heed are the inspired scriptures themselves!
     
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    Do you elevate them on par with sacred scriptures?
     
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    I guess other than believing in baptismal regeneration, the Eucharist as the actual body and blood of Christ, the efficacy of the Sacraments, the ordained episcopate, priesthood and diaconate, the practice of celibacy and clerical continence, having a liturgy focused on the Eucharistic sacrifice, Apostolic succession as necessary to safeguard the faith and valid Sacraments, the authority of the Church and the bishop of Rome as the authority over the Church universal, I suppose you could say the early Church was Baptistlike!
     
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    But the ECs define the Trinity, And Deity of Christ according to the scriptures. To reject them is to reject the scriptures.
     
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    Study the creeds and prove they do not say exactly what the scriptures say.
     
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    jesus NEVER intended there to be Apostolic succession, as ONLY His 12 and Paul were to be seen as being Apostles of His, as it was and is their teaching and the scriptures alone that we need!
    The ONLY infallible interpreter of the scriptures is not the Church of Rome, nor the JW watchtower, but the Holy Spirit Himself!
     
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    What is the first thing the Apostles (led by Peter) do after returning to Jerusalem after our Lord's glorious ascension?

    a. Appoint a successor to Judas
    b. Have lunch
    c. Celebrate


    St. Peter ---> “For it is written in the Book of Psalms, ‘May his camp become desolate, and let there be no one to dwell in it’; and 'Let another take his office.’" (Acts 1:20)
     
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