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Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Earth Wind and Fire, Apr 11, 2020.

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  1. Earth Wind and Fire

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    A reformed gay himself, Voris speaks truth to power.
     
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    The truth is though that all posting here deserved to be sitting right next to them in final judgement until the grace of our Savior saved us!
     
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    Until then I’d have a rope and milestone permanently attached to their necks to make ready. I like to be prepared... ya never know the date & time of His return
     
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    "Corruptio optimi pessima."


    There is something important to observe in this discussion. The Protestants in here ignoring their own scandals and instead focusing on the scandals in the Church is because they implicitly know the essence of the Church is holy. Their own sects make no such claims of being essentially holy because their ecclesiology is flawed. However, the reason the problems within the Catholic Church are so scandalous is precisely because they implicitly recognize the holiness of the Catholic Church. Any actions against her essence are thus rightfully horrific and scandalous.

    The reason the scandals in their own sects are not horrifying is because their sects are nothing more than religious Elks Clubs.
     
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    Did you get a chance to see the EWTN broadcast of Good Friday services from the Washington Basilica with Monseigneur Rossi?
     
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    So what is the essential function of the Roman Catholic Church then? I have some thoughts build love to see you elaborate.
     
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    No, I did not. What did I miss?
     
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    To bring men into communion with God through Jesus Christ and thence into the Kingdom of God.
     
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    Well, the bad news is that Michael Voris thinks that EWTN is a train wreck in slow motion. Walpole, I am an outsider on this stuff so you tell me if Voris is right or wrong. He talks for 5 minutes. Apparently EWTN withdrew their link to Rossi on Good Friday after much criticism in social media. I don't know--I am an outsider but my RCC friends here in this area are Latin Mass, just sayin'

    EWTN Madness
     
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    I'm sorry but I'm just not following. You asked if I was able to watch Good Friday services from the Washington Basilica with Monsignor Rossi.

    What exactly did I miss that happened during the service?
     
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    Oh, it was just a routine service but the uproar was over Rossi and EWTN had to withdraw their link to the service. Voris thinks that Rossi should not be allowed to appear on EWTN but since the death of Mother Angelica, EWTN is controlled by the Bishops, whom she denounced. What do you think about what Voris said?
     
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    The Holy Spirit does that and provides grace. It also provides the individual a conscience. Jesus provides the salvation and the Father provides the Full program. So your church sorry to say is redundant.
     
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    I have no idea who Voris is so I can't comment. I do, however, have familiarity with EWTN and one of the things that makes it unique is its board of trustees is comprised of lay people. It is out of the hands of the bishops, much to their chagrin.
     
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    Michael Voris is founder and CEO of Church Militant, a small think-tank journalist organization in the Detroit area. His point is that the funding for EWTN is controlled by the Bishops. He has been around a number of years but I am not sure how long--perhaps a decade or more.

    Church Militant - Serving Catholics
     
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    Which bishop(s) controls EWTN?

    Do EWTN's chairman and the board of trustees know that there are bishops controlling them?

    How exactly do they control EWTN without being on the board?

    If they have control, why can't they get EWTN programming from criticizing them so much?
     
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    Redundant? The Church is the instrument ordained by Christ. The Church is an extension of His incarnation.

    Extension: Something that can be extended or that extends to another object
    Extended: Continued or prolonged


    "A man’s body is all one, though it has a number of different organs; and all this multitude of organs goes to make up one body; so it is with Christ. We too, all of us, have been baptized into a single body by the power of a single Spirit, Jews and Greeks, slaves and free men alike; we have all been given drink at a single source, the one Spirit. The body, after all, consists not of one organ but of many...And you are Christ’s body, organs of it depending upon each other..." (1 Cor 12:12-30)


    Christ had a body while on earth which He used to teach and sanctify. The Church is now an extension of His body, which is instructed to teach and sanctify. (cf. Mt. 26:26, Mt. 28:20)


    The Church is the body of Christ and thus it is a divine institution. If the Church is not a divine institution, it is nothing more than a religious Elks Club.
     
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    Then the pope is the Grand Poubah of a dysfunctional club who’s time has passed.
     
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    Rome teaches another and false Gospel message!
     
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    We definitely teach a different Gospel from Protestantism, there is no question about that. Thankfully though, there is a movement within Protestantism to reject the gospel of the progenitors of Protestantism and return to the Gospel heralded by St. Paul, which is the Gospel taught and safeguarded by the Catholic Church.

    Google ---> N.T. Wright and the New Perspective on Paul

    There is hope that more and more Protestants will abandon their "theological novum" and embrace the true Gospel and Pauline justification.
     
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    They are the source of money so that is better than being on the board. I don't watch EWTN as I cut the cable a year ago. Why would they put a homosexual predator in and then cut the link?
     
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