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HEALING

Discussion in 'Pastoral Ministries' started by Steven_15, Apr 29, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Healing not part of the Atonement in that we are promised divine health and wealth, but are promised all spiritual blessings in Christ now!
     
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    Physical healing not promised to us in the Atonement, except as in glorification at Second Coming event!
     
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    Yes, but ONLY in that sense!
     
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    wrong - healing in Christ's atonement IS a good thing of which i affirm. do your words betray you?

    how can something in the Bible be unbiblical?

    again your reasoning is flawed probably because it is the fruit of some mortal man's Systematic Theology.
    FWIW you need to base your beliefs on the bible from cover to cover.

    Hearken my brother. again i have and will pray for you.
    i realize that of which we accuse others will visit us ourselves.

    1 Corinthians 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

    GOD bless you and fare thee well.
     
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    Because he has not returned yet!
     
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    The Apostles themselves suffered jail, pain, sickness, trials and tribulations, any reason we should not?
     
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    So Doctors are not given by God for healing, nor medicine? Do we just positive confess until blue in the face and then die?
     
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    You haven't answered as to whether epaphroditus was healed apart from faith in the atonement?

    What does 2 Corinthians 1:20 mean?
     
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    how so Yeshua, Christ has healed me on more than one occasion before the resurrection.

    Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

    i prayed, healing came, it wasn't from the devil.

    no i am not "charismatic".
     
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    All spiritual promises
     
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    Doctors are primarily for those without faith in the atonement.

    Doctors treat. They cannot heal. Don't worship doctors.

    You'll indeed turn blue if you confess promises without faith in His atonement for healing.
     
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    God can and does at times still divinely heal, but that is His choice to do such, as not promised in the Cross, as that was spiritual healing provided for us!
     
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    Did you learn this from kenneth Copeland, hagin, or Hinn?
     
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    Everything was created by and from God who is Spirit. All materials came from God who is Spirit.
    Every blessings are spiritual.
     
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    From the Bible. Where did you learn from? Atheism?
     
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    Isaiah and peter both agree that the Cross provides spiritual, not physical healing!
     
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    Scripture is for the elect which includes Mathew 8:17. Was epaphroditus healed by his family doctor?
     
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    Healing was done by Jesus and His Apostles in Acts, bujt is not the norm since that time!
     
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    Luke 21: 36: "Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen".

    If you want to suffer do so. But don't unbiblically prevent others who believe in Christ's atonement for escaping sufferings.
     
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    You are confusing between healing through signs and healing through faith.
     
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    Luke passage nothing to do with sickness and ilness and believer!
     
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