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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by George Antonios, Apr 25, 2020.

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    You excuse yourself having a merry way by claiming your sins are "unknown". But you seek to judge others claiming their sins are "known"!!

    Except the sinless Christ who else is good enough? Read John 8:7. Worship Christ alone. Don't worship yourself.
     
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    When you judge a person for not stopping to commit adultery and you have not stopped committing sins according to God's requirement in Mathew 5:48, don't come seeking grace for forgiveness. Why? It's because you have not forgiven them but rather kicked them out of the church for not stopping to commit adultery while you either haven't stopped committing sin according to God's requirement in Mathew 5:48! God will not forgive you! Don't deceive yourself.
     
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    Still thinking through it.

    Interesting question, wondering is perseverance is corporate or individual instead of wondering if election is corporate or individual.
     
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    This verse is for the millennium. In other words it hasn't happened yet.
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    And Spider-Man is closer to the truth than Superman . . .
     
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    Those placed in positions of spiritual authority must confess and forsake known sin when confronted!
     
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    Is the Church required to exercise discipline to its members or not?
     
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    The question was what should the church do with leaders shacking up together, correct?
     
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    So the church should not seek to have those in spiritual authority stop commuting fornication?
     
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    Individual basis
     
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    You first seek to stop disobeying God's commandment in Mathew 5: 48. Don't keep talking about others in a stupid manner!
     
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    The question is what should the church do with those like you disobeying Mathew 5:48.
     
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    Is the Church required to exercise discipline to its members who blatantly violate Mathew 5:48 & pretend to be in fellowship with God?
     
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    But why don't you forsake your blatant disobedience to Mathew 5:48 when confronted?
     
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    Why do you eisegete the word millenium into Hebrews 10:14 when God's word says He has already sanctified us by faith according to Acts 15:9: "He made no distinction between us and them, cleansing their hearts by faith"?
     
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    We already know what God does with pharisee's hypocrite's like you. You claim you do not commit sin making God to be a Liar
    1Jn_1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
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    Do confessions of sins make a person sinless that he no longer needs the grace given through Christ's atonement to have fellowship with God?
     
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    Your question does not make sense.
    Three truths about forgivness of sins by the grace of God.
    1. Full and the complete forgiveness, Hebrews 8:12.
    2. The believer's sinless standing in Christ, not being under the Law, 2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 3:4, Romans 4:15, Romans 6:14, 1 John 3:6.
    3. Practical forgivness and cleansing from sin, 1 John 1:9.
     
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    So your answer is still until we get perfect, cannot judge sinful behaviors of those in leadership?
     
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    Nothing, as I am just bringing the council of the scriptures to this situation!
     
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