Featured Were OT saints born again?

OT saints were saved but not born again* as now since Pentecost. With the Nation of Israel and Judea, the temple of God with them was an external place. The transition was the temple vail being torn from top to bottom. And at Pentecost the believers became the temple. And the Holy of Holies is where Jesus is at the right hand of the Father until His second appearing. Hebrews 9:12, Hebrews 9:24, Hebrews 9:28. *John 14:16. Yes, there are more explanations to this interpretation.

 

Explain Samson.

 

Really???...If OT Saints were not born again, you brethren better take Hebrews 11 and cut it out of your Bible... Brother Glen

 

During OT times, the Spirit if God would come upon a person temporarily to enable them to accomplish God’s will. Holy Spirit would come and go as needed.

The permanent indwelling Spirit of God we know was given as a pledge promise from God that the testimony of Jesus is true and our faith in Him is effective for salvation.

peace to you

 

Glad that you are back! I think Moses and Noah are another two examples.

 

Never!

 

I believe God created in them a new heart and a new spirit by His Holy Spirit, but I do not believe they all had the Holy Spirit dwelling in them the same way that believers since Pentecost have.

 

How does this fit in?

Have ye not known that your body is a sanctuary of the Holy Spirit in you, which ye have from God? and ye are not your own, for ye were bought with a price; glorify, then, God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.

Had they been bought with a price?

 

God said the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world. Jesus told his disciples he was going to go and create the place (this earth) that they knew and were familiar with. So yes. The Atonement was made 1990 years ago physically. It happened before this physical earth was actually created. It happened because God Himself came at the time He chose in God's Will and Plan, and did it before God literally created the physical universe. Time is God’s love. All of time is corporated in God’s Love. God does both actions inside (at any point) and outside at any point. God can change in physical reality. God does not change outside of God’s creation of physical reality. God’s love is the ability to change in all aspects of His creation. We can only move forward in time. Of course God can move any human anywhere and any time.

 

From before the foundation of the world God's children were chosen, adopted, elected and predestined to redemption and reconciliation with God.
They were saved.
They were born again.
Though they had not seen the redemption of their souls, they were gifted faith in the promise.

 

You're seriously conflating the two when they're NOT even the same.

It's NOT 'born again', but 'born from above', like as 'Jerusalem above is our mother'.

And yes, every saint that ever was, is, or will be, is born from above, born of the Spirit, born of God, born from Jerusalem above.

We, as Isaac:

26 and the Jerusalem above is the free-woman, which is mother of us all,
27 for it hath been written, `Rejoice, O barren, who art not bearing; break forth and cry, thou who art not travailing, because many are the children of the desolate -- more than of her having the husband.`
28 And we, brethren, as Isaac, are children of promise,
29 but as then he who was born according to the flesh did persecute him according to the spirit, so also now; Gal 4 YLT

Glorious things are spoken of Her, the city of God, the mother of us all:

2 Jehovah loveth the gates of Zion More than all the dwellings of Jacob.
3 Glorious things are spoken of thee, O city of God. Selah
4 I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon as among them that know me: Behold, Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia: This one was born there.
5 Yea, of Zion it shall be said, This one and that one was born in her; And the Most High himself will establish her.
6 Jehovah will count, when he writeth up the peoples, This one was born there. Selah Ps 87

It behooves each and every one of us to be 'born from above':

3 Jesus answered and said to him, `Verily, verily, I say to thee, If any one may not be born from above, he is not able to see the reign of God;`
7 `Thou mayest not wonder that I said to thee, It behoveth you to be born from above;
8 the Spirit where he willeth doth blow, and his voice thou dost hear, but thou hast not known whence he cometh, and whither he goeth; thus is every one who hath been born of the Spirit.` Jn 3 YLT

Born of God = born from above = born of the Spirit = child of Zion

13 who -- not of blood nor of a will of flesh, nor of a will of man but -- of God were begotten. Jn 1 YLT

 

It is!