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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by rockytopva, Aug 1, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Jesus NEVER told us that it was A Mil!
     
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    You really believe that the scriptures alone cannot give us light? Don't all Cults founders, pastor russell, J Smith, EW etc all claim that without their teachings, even Bible not enough?
     
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    So the writers of the Creeds know theology better then Paul did?
     
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    More precise than Paul and Jesus themselves?
     
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    Pastor Russel and Ellen White said same things about their "creeds"
     
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    We have KJVO, now we have Creed Only!
     
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    Sounds like what Catholic Church states, as Church over the scriptures to them!
     
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    None are condemning the Creeds, as I abide with the 1689 LBCF, but do not say that scriptures alone are not sufficient!
     
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    You seem to put them on par!
     
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    If the teaching is true, they summarize scripture.
     
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    So what makes you different from anyone else who says the same?
     
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    They had their personal creeds just as you do. The Ecumenical Creeds unite Christians. You divide them.
     
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    They explain Paul and Jesus beyond your grasp.
     
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    They explain what Paul said. Any Christian should be familiar with them.
     
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    Scriptures give you the basic info. But you cannot know the deep things of Christ revealed through the refinement the creed went through. If you knew what they said, we would not need to measure your comprehension as we are now.
     
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    Find a millennium in his gospel of the kingdom. Preached in the gospels.
     
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    Tell me what creed I have shared.
    Is God's word not sufficient?
     
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    Yet, here you are demanding people must follow the creeds of men.
     
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    Your "creed of man" says remain ignorant. Don't study so you know what you're talking about.
     
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    You condemn the creeds while spouting your own = hypocrisy.
     
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