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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by AustinC, Aug 23, 2020.

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  1. Barry Johnson

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    How has everyone been made holy apart from receiving Jesus and after they believe +sealed by the Holy Spirit?
     
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    This statement is everything wrong with Calvinism.
     
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    Acts 13:48
     
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    My answer assumes nothing; your question did enough assuming. My answer pointed out your question was not valid.

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    No one can be saved until God makes them alive, saves them by grace and gives them faith to believe. If you disagree, you disagree with Ephesians 2:4-9
     
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    Are you unfamiliar with atonement and how it works?
     
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    Your response is entirely worthless.
     
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    The faith precedes being made alive from being dead in sin. Through faith, Ephesians 2:8, Romans 1:16.
     
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    Only in your imagination. This passage does not say we have to made alive in order to be saved. Faith comes before Salvation
    Act 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.
    Did Paul lie to the Jailer? And yes right up to the moment we are saved we are still in sin. Being made spiritually alive is being saved because we cannot be alive spiritually and not be saved. You like all Calvinist place the cart before the horse.
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    Nope. Dead people have no faith. They cannot have faith because God has not made them alive. Scripture is very clear.
     
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    How do dead people save themselves?
     
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    II Thess 3:2
     
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    That says the Gentiles disposed themselves to hear and accept the Gospel.
    verse 46 shows the context by the Jews deciding to reject the message.
     
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    Yes and clearly you are not . Unless you can answer my question please ?
     
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    Dead people also have no pulse .
     
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    Dead people can walk.

    And you He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, 2 in which you once walked according to the course of this world...Ephesians 2:1a
     
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    Is Ephesians 2 4
    It was all this talk of dead people confused me . Slightly misleading . Sick people might be better than dead people . I'm taking 'dead people ' literally lol
     
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    Slightly misleading, ' dead people ' . Unless we should be preaching at the graveyard?
     
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    Yes we have to recieve it . You did not benefit at all from Jesus death ( blood ) 2000 years ago . No you did not recieve Jesus 2000 years ago .
     
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