Did not the Holy Spirit choose to use Koine Greek in order to record to and for us the NT though, as it was the common language of that time, and also was a very precise language, so could use it to argue finer points of doctrines and theology?
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Humans Do Not Generate Their Own Faith
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They seem to equate Calvinism means must agree totally with John Calvin, but doubt many Calvinistic baptists fully agree with him on theology!
Barry, deal with scripture rather than deflecting it to something other.
Romans 5:12-19 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Yet death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over those whose sinning was not like the transgression of Adam, who was a type of the one who was to come. But the free gift is not like the trespass. For if many died through one man’s trespass, much more have the grace of God and the free gift by the grace of that one man Jesus Christ abounded for many. And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification. For if, because of one man’s trespass, death reigned through that one man, much more will those who receive the abundance of grace and the free gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man Jesus Christ. Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by the one man’s disobedience the many were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience the many will be made righteous.
Romans 10:17
So Jesus died in the stead of all lost sinners, and reconciled all back to the Father, and yet most still go to Hell?
Was that Jonah's plan or God's?
And bow before it shall all who are dwelling upon the land, whose names have not been written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world;
for, as Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights, so shall the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.
Would you share with me your understanding of these statements? I understand, context, use any context you would care to for your understanding.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: From John 16:13
Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God calls Jesus accursed, and no one can say that Jesus is Lord except by the Holy Spirit. 1 Cor 12:3
I believe without the Spirit of truth we can know, no truth.
Romans 8:28 And we have known that to those loving God all things do work together for good, to those who are called according to purpose;
To my understanding the most important word in that statement is the word, "purpose".
Acts 15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
God knows what he is doing.
Only those that believe.
MB
No one is saved with out believing. The whole world can be saved if they only believe.
Rom 10:12 For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Rom 10:14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
Calvinist I have met never tell anyone how they can be saved. Because they do not believe it possible. By the way the biblical way of having faith is by hearing.
Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
MB
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Gen 1:26,27----- Out of what?
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Gen 2:7
Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
For the creation (That creation above! Before sin was brought into the world by one man, Adam) was subjected to futility, (Vanity) not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; Romans 8:20 NKJV
Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. Ecc 1:2
What is the, "hope," spoken of? Does it have anything to do with being resurrected out of death not having seen corruption? Does, bring to raised to life out of death incorruptible require, death?
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:7
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. Acts 15:18
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Gen 2:7
Gen 2:1-3 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them. And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made. And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
For the creation (That creation above! Before sin was brought into the world by one man, Adam) was subjected to futility, (Vanity) not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; Romans 8:20 NKJV
Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity. Ecc 1:2
What is the, "hope," spoken of? Does it have anything to do with being resurrected out of death not having seen corruption? Does, bring to raised to life out of death incorruptible require, death?
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. John 3:7
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world. Acts 15:18
Barry Johnson
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It depends . For instance 1cor 1 is talking about worldy wisdom v Gods wisdom . Also the deeper things Paul wants to speak some carnal / babes / natural are unable to hear whilst there behaviour and thinking is worldly . This is believers . The Holy Spirit will guide but it's no use if we are not studying the word and applying it . The unbeliever is also able to respond to the Holy Spirit as seen when he deproves THE WORLD of the sin of not believing on Jesus . So Also unbelievers can respond to the Gospel . Otherwise we are making a mockery of God and His revelation ,saying His revelation cannot achieve His purposes . Namely the Gospel which IS the power OF GOD unto salvation .
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Rom 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
And before the coming of the faith, under law we were being kept, shut up to the faith about to be revealed, so that the law became our child-conductor -- to Christ, that by faith we may be declared righteous, and the faith having come, no more under a child-conductor are we, Gal 3:23-25 YLT
MB: When was that? When did one go from being under law to being under something else? When did, "the faith," come? Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Was that not after Christ died for our sins? The obedient death of Jesus? Was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures?
1 Cor 15:17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith vain; ye are yet in your sins.
Is that the Word of God we heard that is, The Faith - the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Is that not what we heard through which the Spirit was poured out upon us?
Gal 3:2 YLT this only do I wish to learn from you -- by works of law the Spirit did ye receive, or by the hearing of faith? 3:14 YLT that to the nations the blessing of Abraham may come in Christ Jesus, that the promise of the Spirit we may receive through the faith. --- That is the faith of Christ.
BTW as I have said before I know, no Greek. However my understanding is in Heb 11 where, by faith or through faith is used at the beginning of those verses it is in the dative with the understanding of, to or unto. To or Unto faith, such and such took place.
These things were purposed toward the obedient death of Christ and his resurrection out of the dead. That is what they all died in.
Archangel and others who know Greek can correct me if I am wrong but that is my understanding.
Barry Johnson
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Says no scripture..
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