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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Oct 9, 2020.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    Jesus was still always fully God, but was not "glorified: back until the ascension!
     
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    which "will" do you mean here?
     
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    The Will that always get done!
     
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    Y1 just makes up unbiblical doctrine and posts it. While at the same time ignoring that the Second Person of the Trinity takes direction of the Father, before the incarnation.
     
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    Note the complete and absolute absence of any citation of scripture!!!
     
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    and where are your proof texts for this?
     
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    Does anyone believe I have not provided the evidence for pre-incarnation subordination. So why is SBG asking? Smokescreed
     
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    Luke 24:26
    John 17:5
    Philippians 2:5-11
    Hebrews 2:7-9
     
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    where are they? put up or shut up, as they say! :Rolleyes
     
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    see #88
     
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    SBG actually posted an emoticon on one of the posts where I referenced per-incarnate subordination. Therefore these say the question has not been answered posts are obviously deceitful smokescreed.
     
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    still waiting! Like the JW's all bluster!!! :Laugh
     
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    He posted an emoticon folks, and now says I did not post what he posted about. I kid you not.
     
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    I challenge you or anyone else, to give here just ONE Bible verse, that shows Jesus Christ, in His Eternal Deity, was ever "subordinate" to the Father.
     
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    Now he admits I posted references, but denies they "show" God the Son was "subordinate" to the Father. Did I say that? Of course not, I said God the Son operated in subordination to the Father pre-incarnate.

    Since we know the world was created through God the Son, for whom was God the Son acting as agent?
     
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    Jesus humbled himself to being a suffering Servant, as THAT was when he became temp subordinate to the Father!
     
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    Hebrews 1:10-12, the Father is addressing Jesus Christ, where He says that direct Creation IS the work of Jesus! The Father is quoting from Psalm 102:25-27, which is about Creation by Almighty God, and says here this Jesus is THE Creator!
     
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    Fiction, as the world was made "through" God the Son, thus God the Son was acting as the Father's agent.
     
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    God the Father "anointed" God the Son according to Hebrews 1:9, thus God the Son was operating under the direction of the Father.
     
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    ONLY while on earth.
     
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