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I and the Father are one

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Van

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Yeshua1 said:
Jesus agreed to be subordinate status while incarnated here on earth, but not any longer once ascended back to Heaven!
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Y1 just makes up unbiblical doctrine and posts it. While at the same time ignoring that the Second Person of the Trinity takes direction of the Father, before the incarnation.
 
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Van said:
Y1 just makes up unbiblical doctrine and posts it. While at the same time ignoring that the Second Person of the Trinity takes direction of the Father, before the incarnation.
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Luke 24:26
John 17:5
Philippians 2:5-11
Hebrews 2:7-9
 
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He posted an emoticon folks, and now says I did not post what he posted about. I kid you not.
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I challenge you or anyone else, to give here just ONE Bible verse, that shows Jesus Christ, in His Eternal Deity, was ever "subordinate" to the Father.
 
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SavedByGrace said:
I challenge you or anyone else, to give here just ONE Bible verse, that shows Jesus Christ, in His Eternal Deity, was ever "subordinate" to the Father.
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Now he admits I posted references, but denies they "show" God the Son was "subordinate" to the Father. Did I say that? Of course not, I said God the Son operated in subordination to the Father pre-incarnate.

Since we know the world was created through God the Son, for whom was God the Son acting as agent?
 
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Van said:
SBG actually posted an emoticon on one of the posts where I referenced per-incarnate subordination. Therefore these say the question has not been answered posts are obviously deceitful smokescreed.
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Jesus humbled himself to being a suffering Servant, as THAT was when he became temp subordinate to the Father!
 
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Van said:
Now he admits I posted references, but denies they "show" God the Son was "subordinate" to the Father. Did I say that? Of course not, I said God the Son operated in subordination to the Father pre-incarnate.

Since we know the world was created through God the Son, for whom was God the Son acting as agent?
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Hebrews 1:10-12, the Father is addressing Jesus Christ, where He says that direct Creation IS the work of Jesus! The Father is quoting from Psalm 102:25-27, which is about Creation by Almighty God, and says here this Jesus is THE Creator!
 
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Yeshua1 said:
Jesus humbled himself to being a suffering Servant, as THAT was when he became temp subordinate to the Father!
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Fiction, as the world was made "through" God the Son, thus God the Son was acting as the Father's agent.
 
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SavedByGrace said:
Hebrews 1:10-12, the Father is addressing Jesus Christ, where He says that direct Creation IS the work of Jesus! The Father is quoting from Psalm 102:25-27, which is about Creation by Almighty God, and says here this Jesus is THE Creator!
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God the Father "anointed" God the Son according to Hebrews 1:9, thus God the Son was operating under the direction of the Father.
 
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