Featured Could Christ Have Sinned? II

1 Kings 22:20-23

 

God's power excludes not* being God. God is infinitely good in all His Persons. Mark 10:18. Proverbs 9:10.

* The Word was both God and not God. John 1:1-2. "with God" and "was God." In not being God He never ceased being God. Hebrews 1:3, John 1:9-10. Mark 10:18.

 

In the context of the passage (2 Timothy 1:13-2:13), when Paul expounds on his "therefore" in verse 10 regarding the believer's need to endure, which requires faithfulness to the Lord, and reference to Numbers 23:19 which refers to God's faithfulness to His promised blessing to Israel (cursing them per Balak would mean God lied to Israel regarding His promise); impossibility to do Phiilippians 2:5-8 and Hebrews 2:15 which IS the Lord's choice of setting aside His divine nature, your "shed His divinity, which is impossible," strays way outside the context. God won't deny what He already promised, not that it is impossible to set aside His divine nature.

 

It was IMPOSSIBLE for Jesus Christ the God-Man to have sinned. For those who deny this fact have to explain how then Jesus could have lived about 33 years, and not have sinned even once.

 

John 1:2, "The same was in the beginning with God." Literally "with the God," same as in John 1:1 which affirms the Word also "was God." The Word was always both someone other than God and God too. He only changed how He was "with the God" but never that He "was God." This is important to understand. Hebrews 1:3 and John 1:9-10.

 

God can never cease to be God. And Jesus Christ always IS God even after His Incarnation

 

Face it, gentlemen...
It's a stalemate.

Scripture states our Saviour is both God and man;
Stop trying to figure out God being a man, and simply accept what His word tells us.

" And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and [italics] Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think [italics] above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another." ( 1 Corinthians 4:6 ).

 

He did not cease being God, and I never said He did. Philippians 2:6 says the Jesus was equal with God. What do you think Philippians 2:6-8 means? Jesus made the decision to make Himself of no reputation. What reputation could He possibly be talking about if not His deity? You seem to keep ignoring that. If Jesus functioned as a man using His deity, He could not have been tempted like you and I, yet the Bible says He was-Hebrews 4:15. If He was tempted like you and me, He also had to have the choice to sin, and Phil 2:6-8 makes that very clear; as do things like the need for the Lord being filled with the Holy Spirit and His temptations in Matt 4 and Luke 4. The wooden concept ascribed to God by men who say it was impossible for Jesus to not use His deity, not be able to make a decision to sin while He was on earth, is not in the Bible.

 

Your logic is flawed and your declaration is not a fact because it's not in the Bible. Living with the ability to choose to sin or not to sin, does not mean a man with no nature to sin, would have to sin over a 33 year period. Jesus was able to make the choice not to sin by understanding and knowing the Word of God, learning it from childhood until His manhood, in that time, discovering Who He was from His parents and especially from His study of Scripture and choosing to apply it. Jesus had no sin nature just like Adam started out with no old sin nature. Both had volition, choice. Adam had it much easier though than Jesus. Adam had perfect fellowship with God under perfect conditions and yet when Eve offered him the fruit from the forbidden tree, he CHOSE (sans old sin nature) to take a bite. The Lord had to grow up in a family with a tawdry public reputation, hunger, thirst, be made fun of, study and learn the Word of God (and don't you know, He was pretty knowledgeable since at 12, He blew away the scholars), meditate on it, establish and have a close relationship with His Father over time. It was no cake walk by design. And, before He went into the wilderness, God gave Him the power to overcome His temptations by filling Him with the Holy Spirit Who could use the Word of God in Jesus' memory to overcome those temptations. That was the point of His life, to be the real lamb without spot or blemish, not by the use of His deity but by the use of his volition. You continue to ignore Philippians 2:6-8, Hebrews 4:15, Matthew 4 and Luke 4 and stand on something that is not in the Bible.

 

How then did Adam, Lucifer and one third of the angels sin without being bent?

 

Simple question. How did Jesus not sin even a single time during about 33 years when on earth. No human has or ever can go even for a few hours or minutes without sinning. Was Jesus prevented from sinning?

 

There is not a single Scripture that teaches that Jesus Christ's human nature was like Adams completely

 

You are mistaken. I simply had not addressed just His humanity and how He as a man was really tempted like us, yet without sin. The key defference being His deity.

 

Wow, talk about a complete misunderstnading of the Gospel, and of the Holy Ghost Himself.

The Holy Ghost empowers people to live without sin. Though persons still have choice.

For instance. I used to consume the iniquitous alcohol. The Holy Ghost gave me victory over that - completely. I do not drink any more. Ever. So it has been much more than a few hours or minutes, but ever since that time years ago.

The Holy Ghost is to do this for all of my iniquitous thoughts, speech and actions.

The people of God do not merely have imaginary victory over sin - they actually partake of it.

You really ought to change your name to ""Not Saved" by Grace" if you actually believe what you just stated, for if you cannot have actual and permanent victory, then you have no salvation - from anything, by grace or anything else.

 

Ellen White stated that Jesus had our sinful nature, so your Jesus could sin, but the One in the Bible had no sin nature as us, so could not!

 

He was sinless in his human nature, nothing to respond to the temptation!

 

Still doesn't answer what I have said. Jesus lived about 33 years without sinning even ONCE. How did He accomplish this. Your reasoning is not the answer