Could Christ Have Sinned? II

[George Antonios]

Could Christ have sinned?

If Christ could have lied, He could have sinned. But if one believes Paul, it is impossible for God to lie.

I don't understand the controversy here.

We Christians constantly draw a distinction in the minds of those we preach to, between the deity of Christ and the humanity of Christ. Muslims ask me: "How could God die?", "How could God be hungry?", "How could God be weary?"; to which I answer that Jesus Christ had two nature: God and man. In his humanity, he could die, suffer hunger and thirst and fatigue, though not in his deity.
It's the same answer to the question: "Could Christ have sinned?". The answer is "yes". The counter is: "How could God sin?". The reply is: "Christ, in his human nature only, could have sinned, though not in his divine nature", thus preserving the truth that God cannot be tempted with evil (Ja.1:13) yet without making a empty charade out of Jesus Christ's monumental strife and victory over sin, as a man; which makes me desire to worship him all the more.

 

[Yeshua1]

I don't understand the controversy here.

We Christians constantly draw a distinction in the minds of those we preach to, between the deity of Christ and the humanity of Christ. Muslims ask me: "How could God die?", "How could God be hungry?", "How could God be weary?"; to which I answer that Jesus Christ had two nature: God and man. In his humanity, he could die, suffer hunger and thirst and fatigue, though not in his deity.
It's the same answer to the question: "Could Christ have sinned?". The answer is "yes". The counter is: "How could God sin?". The reply is: "Christ, in his human nature only, could have sinned, though not in his divine nature", thus preserving the truth that God cannot be tempted with evil (Ja.1:13) yet without making a empty charade out of Jesus Christ's monumental strife and victory over sin, as a man; which makes me desire to worship him all the more.

he had sinless humanity, so could experience temptation as all of us, even more so being Holy, but could not ever sin!

 

[37818]

He was sinless in his human nature, nothing to respond to the temptation!

Ah, why does it say, Hebrews 4:15, ". . . was in all points tempted like as we are, . . ."

 

[SGO]

he had sinless humanity, so could experience temptation as all of us, even more so being Holy, but could not ever sin!

Where is your scripture?

As God He will never sin.
As a man He could sin.

"was in ALL points tempted...

"...as WE are..."


YET
YET
YET
"... yet without sin."
Hebrews 4:15 partial

What is the "yet" there for?
Could not it be, in spite of being a man with the potential to sin, He did not.
Why is He our holy priest? Because as a man He did not sin.
He did not sin BECAUSE He is God, He did not sin because He chose not to sin.
"...nevertheless not my will but thine be done." Luke 22:42
He is God.
He is a man.

For we have not
an high priest
which cannot
be touched
with the feeling of our infirmities;
but was in all points
tempted like as we are,
yet without sin.
Hebrews 4:15

 

[Yeshua1]

Ah, why does it say, Hebrews 4:15, ". . . was in all points tempted like as we are, . . ."

Yes , Jesus felt the temptation but nothing there to respond and follow thru to obey sin!

 

[Yeshua1]

Where is your scripture?

As God He will never sin.
As a man He could sin.

"was in ALL points tempted...

"...as WE are..."


YET
YET
YET
"... yet without sin."
Hebrews 4:15 partial

What is the "yet" there for?
Could not it be, in spite of being a man with the potential to sin, He did not.
Why is He our holy priest? Because as a man He did not sin.
He did not sin BECAUSE He is God, He did not sin because He chose not to sin.
"...nevertheless not my will but thine be done." Luke 22:42
He is God.
He is a man.

For we have not
an high priest
which cannot
be touched
with the feeling of our infirmities;
but was in all points
tempted like as we are,
yet without sin.
Hebrews 4:15

Jesus fully God, fully Man, not flopping back and forth from one nature to the other!

 

[SGO]

Yes , Jesus felt the temptation but nothing there to respond and follow thru to obey sin!

Yeshua1 where is your scripture?

Yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15
Are you saying then as far as we are concerned His temptation was not real but only "like" ours?

 

[SGO]

Jesus fully God, fully Man, not flopping back and forth from one nature to the other!

Where is your proof just assertions.

 

[SavedByGrace]

It's the same answer to the question: "Could Christ have sinned?". The answer is "yes". The counter is: "How could God sin?". The reply is: "Christ, in his human nature only, could have sinned, though not in his divine nature",

only if you make Jesus Christ two separate Persons, rather than natures! Jesus Christ is ONE Person, 100% fully God in His Nature, and 100% Man, in His Nature. The God-Man. It is foolish for anyone to suggest that when the devil tested Jesus Christ, that this was only done to His "Human Nature"! He IS the ONE Person, not divided! Without this being understood, people will keep on falling into the error of the possibility of Jesus Christ "sinning".

 

[Larry the Logger]

You are mistaken. I simply had not addressed just His humanity and how He as a man was really tempted like us, yet without sin. The key defference being His deity.

No.The key was His choice not to sin. Not being able to sin while being tempted to sin is not a temptation.

 

[SGO]

Yes , Jesus felt the temptation but nothing there to respond and follow thru to obey sin!

Please provide scripture that says "nothing there."

 

[SavedByGrace]

We just had a thread on this very topic, and the same old answers are being posted on here, by the majority who simply do NOT understand the Bible teaching on the Person of The Lord Jesus Christ. It is complete nonsense that Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh, could have succumbed to temptation, but somehow did not. No one has explained how this is possible for Jesus to have done all His earthly life, if, as it is assumed, He was "like unto us"?

 

[Yeshua1]

Yeshua1 where is your scripture?

Yet without sin. Hebrews 4:15
Are you saying then as far as we are concerned His temptation was not real but only "like" ours?

Jesus expereince temptations ever more intense then any of us, as he is holy and in him is NO darkness at all!

 

[Yeshua1]

Please provide scripture that says "nothing there."

He had a sinless nature, correct?

 

[SGO]

He had a sinless nature, correct?

Scripture please not your assertion.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Scripture please not your assertion

are you saying that the "human nature" of Jesus Christ was "sinful and fallen"?

 

[SGO]

Jesus expereince temptations ever more intense then any of us, as he is holy and in him is NO darkness at all!

No darkness because He did not sin.

For he hath made him
to be sin for us,
who knew no sin:
that we might be made
the righteousness of God in him.
2 Corinthians 5:21

He knew no sin as man
so He could die in our place.

 

[Yeshua1]

are you saying that the "human nature" of Jesus Christ was "sinful and fallen"?

Thought that was why the Virgin Birth, as way to bypass original Sin?

 

[SGO]

are you saying that the "human nature" of Jesus Christ was "sinful and fallen"?

Oh, right, Saved By Grace, but then His sacrifice would have been wasted.
You like to argue but not read my posts.

 

[SGO]

We just had a thread on this very topic, and the same old answers are being posted on here, by the majority who simply do NOT understand the Bible teaching on the Person of The Lord Jesus Christ. It is complete nonsense that Jesus Christ, God manifested in the flesh, could have succumbed to temptation, but somehow did not. No one has explained how this is possible for Jesus to have done all His earthly life, if, as it is assumed, He was "like unto us"?

If the same old answers are here then yours are also.