Could Christ Have Sinned? II

[SGO]

Thought that was why the Virgin Birth, as way to bypass original Sin?

Where is the proof of this assertion?
Or did you just think this thought and post it?

 

[SavedByGrace]

Thought that was why the Virgin Birth, as way to bypass original Sin?

Jesus Christ did not have to "bypass original sin"; but when He was conceived in the womb of the Virgin Mary, the Holy Spirit created His "human nature" from hers, which was "Holy" from the start, as clear in Luke 1:35 (KJV), and Matthew 1:16, 18, 20), especially in the Greek text.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Where is the proof of this assertion?
Or did you just think this thought and post it?

read your Bible! Luke 1:35 for starters! People post things on here do not know what the Bible even teaches!

 

[SavedByGrace]

If the same old answers are here then yours are also.

In am repeating myself for the majority who do NOT understant Biblical Christology!

 

[Yeshua1]

Jesus Christ did not have to "bypass original sin"; but when He was conceived in the womb of the Virgin Mary, the Holy Spirit created His "human nature" from hers, which was "Holy" from the start, as clear in Luke 1:35 (KJV), and Matthew 1:16, 18, 20), especially in the Greek text.

IF no Virgin birth, he would have come to us with a sin nature!

 

[SavedByGrace]

IF no Virgin birth, he would have come to us with a sin nature!

and with a phantom human nature.

 

[Yeshua1]

In am repeating myself for the majority who do NOT understant Biblical Christology!

We seem to have a hard time on some of the basics here, such as Jesus has a sinless nature, was not eternal subordinate etc!

 

[SavedByGrace]

We seem to have a hard time on some of the basics here, such as Jesus has a sinless nature, was not eternal subordinate etc!

indeed, basic Bible theology.

 

[SGO]

Sorry, thread readers and posters, I apologize for my short temper.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Sorry, thread readers and posters, I apologize for my short temper.

We all have our faults

 

[Larry the Logger]

There is not a single Scripture that teaches that Jesus Christ's human nature was like Adams completely

Nor did I imply that in my question.

Simple question. How did Jesus not sin even a single time during about 33 years when on earth.

Simple answer. Reread #32.

No human has or ever can go even for a few hours or minutes without sinning. Was Jesus prevented from sinning?

Adam did and I'm guessing he lasted more than a few hours.

Was Jesus prevented from sinning?

You seem to think so.

 

[37818]

No.The key was His choice not to sin. Not being able to sin while being tempted to sin is not a temptation.

What you do not understand is the cause of our sinful nature being man, The divine knowledge of good and evil, Genesis 3:22, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: . . ." So Jesus being born a human recieved that "knowledge of good and evil" from both His mother and He from being the Son of God from His own divine nature being the Creator. Being truely human to be really tempted and being the Creator not to sin, Hebrews 4:15.

 

[Larry the Logger]

What you do not understand is the cause of our sinful nature being man,

What do you not understand that Adam was a man created WITHOUT that sinful nature in perfect environment with perfect face to face fellowship with God, and yet he sinned?

The divine knowledge of good and evil, Genesis 3:22, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: . . ." So Jesus being born a human recieved that "knowledge of good and evil" from both His mother and He from being the Son of God from His own divine nature being the Creator. Being truely human to be really tempted and being the Creator not to sin, Hevrews 4:15,

If you ever thought of making pretzels, you'd be really good at it but using Hebrews 4:15 which disproves your point, not so much.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Nor did I imply that in my question.


Simple answer. Reread #32.



Adam did and I'm guessing he lasted more than a few hours.



You seem to think so.

#32 says nothing of the fact that Jesus Christ was 100% sinless during His earthly life, and the fact that if as people like yourself claim, that He "could have sinned", but cannot exaplain how He did not? The ONLY answer is that Jesus Christ, unlike anyone else, as God-Man, was "not able to sin", as He remained fully God, while fully Man, though with a perfect, sinless human nature. This seems difficult for some to grasp!

 

[Dave G]

Sorry, thread readers and posters, I apologize for my short temper.

Having the same fault in my own flesh, I can say with all compassion, "I forgive you".

 

[Aaron]

I don't understand the controversy here.

We Christians constantly draw a distinction in the minds of those we preach to, between the deity of Christ and the humanity of Christ. Muslims ask me: "How could God die?", "How could God be hungry?", "How could God be weary?"; to which I answer that Jesus Christ had two nature: God and man. In his humanity, he could die, suffer hunger and thirst and fatigue, though not in his deity.
It's the same answer to the question: "Could Christ have sinned?". The answer is "yes". The counter is: "How could God sin?". The reply is: "Christ, in his human nature only, could have sinned, though not in his divine nature", thus preserving the truth that God cannot be tempted with evil (Ja.1:13) yet without making a empty charade out of Jesus Christ's monumental strife and victory over sin, as a man; which makes me desire to worship him all the more.

Sounds right, except for the fact that Christ did not get his life from Adam like you or I. He was God the Son in a body. You're taking the "fully human" verbage to a point not intended by the people who first said it, and neither supported by the Scripture.

It tells us the Word was made flesh. Not "fully human," meaning corruptible.

 

[SavedByGrace]

What do you not understand that Adam was a man created WITHOUT that sinful nature in perfect environment with perfect face to face fellowship with God, and yet he sinned?

WHERE in the Bible does it ever say that Adam was "holy", as it does for Jesus Christ in Luke 1:35? People should stop trying to compare the Lord Jesus Christ, in His human nature to that of Adam, as they are NOT completely alike! Adams had the ability to disobey God, which Jesus could not ever do!

 

[Aaron]

How then did Adam, Lucifer and one third of the angels sin without being bent?

God did not create them incorruptible. Christ was not made, like Adam, Lucifer and one third of the angels. He is the only begotten of the Father.

 

[SavedByGrace]

Adam did and I'm guessing he lasted more than a few hours

There is zero Bible evidence to show that Adam was ever "tested" by the devil before the time that is recorded in the Bible, so it is pointless in trying to speculate on whether he was before this time.

Neither you, or anyone else has shown how Jesus was able to remain 100% SINLESS during His 33 years on earth? Something that is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone with a "normal" human nature to do!

 

[SavedByGrace]

It's a stalemate

what is? Scripture is very clear to those who will listen and learn, and not get carried away with human theology!