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Featured THE LORD IS…NOT WILLING THAT ANY OF YOU SHOULD PERISH

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Feb 1, 2021.

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    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

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    Blind following the blind
     
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    That's not a valid argument because the same could be said about you. Scripture is clear that God chooses who is saved from their sin.
     
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    No where in the Bible!
     
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    No one comes to Me (Jesus) unless he is drawn (literally dragged) by the Father.
    For those He forknew, he predestined...
    Chosen before the foundation of the world....
     
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    So Christians are a bunch of dumb machines. This is fatalistic theology
     
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    No, people are sinners with no desire for God. God chooses some to bring out of that bondage.
     
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    You say that and yet the Bible says that the Holy Spirit can be resisted

    Acts 7:51
    [51]"You men who are stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears are always resisting the Holy Spirit; you are doing just as your fathers did.
     
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    Read 2 thess 2:10-12 and ask the Lord to help you understand it
     
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    Notice it says "You will always" those individuals are not chosen.
     
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    You do understand Scripture flat says none seek after God right?
     
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    It does not say YOU, It says many;
    KJ21
    for this is My blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    ASV
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many unto remission of sins.
    AMP
    for this is My blood of the [new and better] covenant, which [ratifies the agreement and] is being poured out for many [as a substitutionary atonement] for the forgiveness of sins .
    AMPC
    For this is My blood of the new covenant, which [ratifies the agreement and] is being poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    BRG
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    CSB
    For this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    CEB
    This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many so that their sins may be forgiven.
    CJB
    For this is my blood, which ratifies the New Covenant, my blood shed on behalf of many, so that they may have their sins forgiven.
    CEV
    This is my blood, and with it God makes his agreement with you. It will be poured out, so that many people will have their sins forgiven.
    DARBY
    For this is my blood, that of the [new] covenant, that shed for many for remission of sins.
    DLNT
    For this is My blood of the covenant— the blood being poured-out for many for forgiveness of sins.
    DRA
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto remission of sins.
    ERV
    This wine is my blood, which will be poured out to forgive the sins of many and begin the new agreement from God to his people.
    EHV
    for this is my blood of the new testament, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    ESV
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    ESVUK
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    EXB
    This is my blood ·which is the new agreement that God makes with his people [or which confirms/establishes the new covenant; L of the new covenant; Ex. 24:8. Jer. 31:31–34]. This blood is poured out for many ·to forgive their [T for the remission of] sins [Is. 53:12].
    GNV
    For this is my blood of the new Testament that is shed for many, for the remission of sins.
    GW
    This is my blood, the blood of the promise. It is poured out for many people so that sins are forgiven.
    GNT
    “this is my blood, which seals God's covenant, my blood poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    HCSB
    For this is My blood that establishes the covenant; it is shed for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    ICB
    This is my blood which begins the new agreement that God makes with his people. This blood is poured out for many to forgive their sins.
    ISV
    because this is my blood of the new covenant that is being poured out for many people for the forgiveness of sins.
    PHILLIPS
    In the middle of the meal Jesus took a loaf and after blessing it he broke it into pieces and gave it to the disciples. “Take and eat this,” he said, “it is my body.” Then he took a cup and after thanking God, he gave it to them with the words, “Drink this, all of you, for it is my blood, the blood of the new agreement shed to set many free from their sins. I tell you I will drink no more wine until I drink it fresh with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
     
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    pt2;
    JUB
    for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    KJV
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    AKJV
    for this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    LEB
    for this is my blood of the covenant which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    TLB
    for this is my blood, sealing the new covenant. It is poured out to forgive the sins of multitudes.
    MSG
    During the meal, Jesus took and blessed the bread, broke it, and gave it to his disciples: Take, eat. This is my body. Taking the cup and thanking God, he gave it to them: Drink this, all of you. This is my blood, God’s new covenant poured out for many people for the forgiveness of sins. “I’ll not be drinking wine from this cup again until that new day when I’ll drink with you in the kingdom of my Father.”
    MEV
    For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    MOUNCE
    for this is · my blood of the covenant that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NOG
    This is my blood, the blood of the promise. It is poured out for many people so that sins are forgiven.
    NABRE
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which will be shed on behalf of many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NASB
    for this is My blood of the covenant, which is being poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.
    NASB1995
    for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins.
    NCV
    This is my blood which is the new agreement that God makes with his people. This blood is poured out for many to forgive their sins.
    NET
    for this is my blood, the blood of the covenant, that is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NIRV
    This is my blood of the covenant. It is poured out to forgive the sins of many people.
    NIV
    This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NIVUK
    This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NKJV
    For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    NLV
    This is My blood of the New Way of Worship which is given for many. It is given so the sins of many can be forgiven.
    NLT
    for this is my blood, which confirms the covenant between God and his people. It is poured out as a sacrifice to forgive the sins of many.
    NMB
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    NRSV
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

    NRSVA

    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NRSVACE
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NRSVCE
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    NTE
    ‘This is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

    TPT
    For this is the blood that seals the new covenant. It will be poured out for many for the complete forgiveness of sins.
    RGT
    “For this is My blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many, for the remission of sins.
    RSV
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    RSVCE
    for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    TLV
    for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the removal of sins.
    VOICE
    this is My blood of the new covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.
    WEB
    for this is my blood of the new covenant, which is poured out for many for the remission of sins.
    WE
    This is my blood. My blood is the blood of the new agreement. It is given so that many people will be forgiven for the wrong things they did.
    WYC
    this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many, into remission of sins.
    YLT
    for this is my blood of the new covenant, that for many is being poured out -- to remission of sins;
     
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    Luke 22.20
    Luke 22:20

    "ωσαυτως και το ποτηριον μετα το δειπνησαι λεγων τουτο το ποτηριον η καινη διαθηκη εν τω αιματι μου το υπερ υμων εκχυνομενον"

    English translation, "And in like manner the cup, after having supped, saying, This cup is the New Covenant in My blood, which is being poured out for you"

    Will you now accept that you are wrong and what the Bible teaches right, or make more excuses to reject the teaching of the Word of God? YOU is PLURAL in the Greek!
     
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    Not one version seems to accept your "greek" expertise:Sick:Cautious:Redface

    I was quoting from mt26....why do you jump to luke?
     
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    New King James Version Mark 14:24 And He said to them, “This is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many.
     
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    All my quotes are from mt 26....Are you suggesting they contradict luke?
     
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    New King James Version Matthew 26:28 For this is My blood of the new covenant, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
     
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    Was Judas saved? Is Christ Jesus atonement for his sins full or is it partial?
    If you say full...but he didn't repent, then the atonement is not full, it is partial. Christ didn't atone the sin of unbelief and nonrepentance.
    What is it?
     
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    It is obvious that the "many" means "all", which is the "you" of Luke 22.20. Which I have been referring to
     
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