Featured Understanding the NT re: eternal security

saved souls were offered to choose life or death.

maybe these will help.

0.0.1: 50 to 60 verses which the lost & others seem to think to teach man is something more than God.

 

If we are saved by having faith that God has saved us, we cannot be saved if we think the possibility of losing salvation exists.

 

It says "we are not of those who draw back to predition, . . ." How did those who drew back to have lived by faith to have been saved? Honestly I do not see there saved persons having salvation taken from them. But drawing back from having the faith in order to obtain salvation. Do you have a better reference?

 

So the saved can continue in a life of sin and still get to heaven

 

Again I understand those who drew back drew back from choosing to believe. Which those who believe did not. What evidence do you have those who drew back had believed to the saving of their souls?

 

The reconciliation of the two groups of verses is simply dispensational:

• Eternal Security is truth during the church age.
• Eternal Security is heresy during the tribulation and the millennial kingdom.

Both doctrines are Biblical, hence the controversy.
It's just a question of dispensational context.
2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

 

Rom_11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance [on God's part, i.e. he won't change his mind about them].

In the tribulation and the millennial kingdom, salvation will no more be a free gift, thus loss of salvation will once again be a possibility, as it was under the law.

 

The word is the same word. It is the how and what one believes. Matthew 7:21, Luke 8:13, 2 Corinthians 4:3, etc.

 

Every Christian believes what the Bible "clearly teaches" ... they just disagree on what is clearly taught.

Romans 14:5-13 [NKJV]

One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks. For none of us lives to himself, and no one dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord; and if we die, we die to the Lord. Therefore, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s. For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living. But why do you judge your brother? Or why do you show contempt for your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ. For it is written:

“As I live, says the LORD,

Every knee shall bow to Me,

And every tongue shall confess to God.”

So then each of us shall give account of himself to God. Therefore let us not judge one another anymore, but rather resolve this, not to put a stumbling block or a cause to fall in our brother’s way.​

 

Christians still are able to sin and in fact sin every day in thought word or deed. They are no longer under sins reigning power, and do not habitually commit sin, but we do sin, and yes, we will still go to heaven.

 

George, where do you think you see this?

 

But we need to repent daily as 1 John 1:8-10 tells us

 

... you are discussing a "married bachelor" (something which is a logical self-contradiction and cannot exist). You are asking:

• 'what if someone has had their heart and mind transformed by God and hasn't had their heart and mind transformed by God, will they still go to heaven along with those that have had their heart and mind transformed by God?'

The question is nonsensical.

 

It said nothing about "daily".

 

May not be as you think. Salvation can only be received by the mercy of God.

 

Check Job chapter 1

 

New King James Version Job 1:5 So it was, when the days of feasting had run their course, that Job would send and sanctify them, and he would rise early in the morning and offer burnt offerings according to the number of them all. For Job said, “It may be that my sons have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.” Thus Job did regularly.