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Featured Have Believers Already Been Adopted as Children of God?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Scripture More Accurately, Apr 15, 2021.

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  1. George Antonios

    George Antonios Well-Known Member

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    r-e-g-e-n-e-r-a-t-i-on, hence "born": b-o-r-n; not "adopted".

    Birth and Adoption are two vastly different concepts.
     
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    Through a supernatural birthing by the Spirit. It has nothing to do with adoption.
     
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    The Greek is "ἀπολάβωμεν", which is, Verb, second Aorist, Active, Subjunctive. What does the AORIST mean to you?
     
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    #2 in signature. Par for the course.
     
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    so Galatians 4:5 is wrong? :eek:
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    No, it's talking about God having given us the Spirit of adoption as an earnest of the adoption we will experience at the resurrection.
    We haven't received it yet, it's that we might receive.
    Otherwise, Romans 8:25 is wrong for it says that we're still waiting to get adopted (physically, not spiritually).
     
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    No, Gal. 4:5 is not wrong, but that verse does not specify when the adoption takes place or what the adoption is.
     
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    Spiritual adoption is how we are now children of God and are among the redeemed!
     
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    When we are saved, born again and have the Holy Spiorit and new nature in us, are now adopted into family of God and part of the Body of Christ!
     
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    Do you deny that the NT teaches that believers are born into the family of God?
     
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    Paul makes a big deal about us who knew not God and outside the Covenant to now being included in and called children of God!
     
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    When born again, we are thus adopted in!
     
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    Current adoption state, not a future yet to come!
     
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    How can one be saved, part of the Body of Christ, and not yet been adopted in?
     
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    That birthing by and of God results in us now being adopted by the Father!
     
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    That's not what the verse says. It does not say, Galatians 4:5, "to redeem those who were under the law, so that we [have received] adoption as sons."

    It says, Galatians 4:5, "to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons"
     
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    I'm beginning to suspect you don't really read the posts because you almost never engage what is said, you just repeat what you know.
    All the best.
     
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    How can we be right now called children of God if not part of His family? So no one has ever been adopted yet, as second coming not yet happened?
     
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    We are part of His family through a supernatural birthing by the Spirit.
     
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