Featured Have Believers Already Been Adopted as Children of God?

Please point me to a "biblical adoption".

When did God accept the Moabitess Ruth as one of His Chosen People?
When did the family of Rahab become part of the Nation?

 

You always ignore Romans 8:14-15.

For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!”

 

You split a semantic hair that makes me very uncomfortable.

I agree that we have not yet been glorified and, quite frankly, I wish this whole life thing were already over. A decade of helplessly watching my wife suffer pain as her spine crumbles has been enough "fun" to last eternity.

However to use that to claim that we have not been adopted by God yet, seems like folly that spits in the face of both our already being CHILDREN OF GOD and our already being indwelt by the HOLY SPIRIT. You make a distinction without a difference to claim a difference that no one disagrees with without your distinction.

 

So you see that the adoption has already taken place, but the redemption of our physical body from corruption to incorruption has not taken place.
The adoption has been secured. Our arrival at home is in the future.
It's all there. Now, why do you ignore the whole and twist a verse to force it to mean what it does not mean?

 

You are talking in circles and saying nothing.

I don't understand because I am thinking of the English word adoption instead of the Biblical word adoption, so I ask for an example of a Biblical adoption and you point me to a verse that has nothing to do with adoption at all in any human sense of the word. Who adopts a child and presents them with a body?

How are we already CHILDREN OF GOD but not yet ADOPTED into the family of God? That is nonsensical.

 

Jesus said that he was going back to his God and Our God, so were they not already adopted by the father then?

 

We have already received the Spirit of adoption!

 

The text is clear. You are looking for a tree that can change the forest.

 

According to Romans 8:14-15 our adoption is already secured. There is nothing to discuss. You avoid the whole to arrive at a false assertion. You may stop talking now.

 

Just as you were the child of your parents before you were brought forth out of the womb.

In the old days that is when one found out if they had a son or a daughter. But today we are almost as smart as God. And I am sure some are looking forward to determining which they generate via DNA manipulation or something.
They want to be GOD!

 

But until then you will continue to groan within yourself. Just as atpollard in post 86 was speaking of groaning over his wife. We all groan within our selves. We are yearning for these birth pains within us awaiting the adoption to go away.

Consider what Paul says concerning that using the word, hope, in verses 24-25
for in hope we were saved, and hope beheld is not hope; for what any one doth behold, why also doth he hope for? and if what we do not behold we hope for, through continuance we expect.

As I get older 78 now, that groaning gets stronger and stronger.

 

IF we have not yet been adopted by the Father, would have no rights to call Him our father, nor to be joint heirs with Christ!