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No the Bible does not say that He did or did not

Negatives cannot prove anything.

No one really knows this answer with out trying to travel that fast. Scientific theories tend to be supposed guesses. Men use to believe they could not survive traveling at 60 miles and hour. Certainly this has been found untrue.
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Linear accelerators show that rather than speeding up, particles with mass simply increase in mass not speed when approaching the SOL. Thus there is evidence for the speed limit for things with mass.

 

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Screed to hide truth is the hallmark of the uninformed.

Genesis 6:17 (NASB95)
“Behold, I, even I am bringing the flood of water upon the earth, to destroy all flesh in which is the breath of life, from under heaven; everything that is on the earth shall perish.

Here the implication was Genesis 6:17 supported that "all flesh" (in which is the breath of life) was located on earth. But just as likely all flesh refers only to all the flesh on earth and is silent concerning unknown life on unknown worlds beyond the naked eye.

Thus once more, evidence we are the only life in the universe from the bible is based on presupposition. "From under heaven" probably refers to the visible heaven, indicating the full known expanse of the earth.

Sound bible interpretation includes an effort not to expand the intended scope of a reference, to some unintended greater scope.
Rather than the least something could include (creation refers to born anew believers) an expansionist would claim the reference includes what was unknown to the author.

 

No, as the bible answers that question, God made the entire universe as described in Genesis 1:1.

Basically we have a liberal bible interpreter saying to assume the meaning intended concerning what the bible does not specifically address. From my side of the street, those are the hermeneutics of those who read between the lines, make unwarranted inferences, and expand the scope of scripture past its intended meaning.

They read back into scripture the worldview of today.

 

Not to you it was quoted to van.

I will try and explain my thoughts.

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. That is creation. However I do not believe that is how the word, "creation," is being used in Romans.

I believe in Romans it is used not as to the creation of the heavens and the earth but in the context of the foundation of the world (kosmos) because of how it is stated in Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world (kosmos) His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse

Van only wants to apply the creation to humans whereas I believe it relates to the, foundation of the world. For example in Verse 21 because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

I believe when the sons of God are manifested, the lion will lay down with the lamb, the earth will not be cursed and so forth.

I believe before man sinned Verse applied: YLT for to vanity was the creation made subject -- not of its will, but because of Him who did subject it -- in hope, --- That which was very good in verse 31 of Gen 1 was subjected to vanity.

Why do I believe that?

Because of the in, "Hope"?

That hope is, "the manifested sons of God," those who are no longer awaiting the adoption to wit, redemption of the body.

That redemption of the body is what Peter speaks of in 1 Peter 1:18-20 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

The hope was foreordained because the creation was going to be subjected to vanity. IMHO

The purpose of this was the destruction of the devil and his works, who existed before the foundation of the world. Again IMHO and probably only MO. That's OK also.

 

Look at the word creation in context. If the "creation" is aware, has knowledge, or is desiring something, humankind is in view. For example, clearly Romans 1:20 refers to humans. In Romans 8:39, "any other created thing" refers to the created things in the mind of the author, not unknown things. And again, look at Romans 8:20-22, clearly creation is identified as humankind in verse 22.

To claim creation refers to other than humans in Romans 1:20 is biblical interpretation malpractice. The foundation of the earth is not aware of God's invisible attributes.

To claim created things in Romans 8:39 only refers to humans is again to engage in biblical interpretation malpractice. And to claim that is my view is a vicious falsehood.

 

The Bible tells us that the one doing the action is the Creator, the action is creating, and the result is the creation. Since God created the Heavens and the Earth, we must infer whether all of creation, i.e. the Universe, or some lesser part of creation, i.e. a born anew believer is in view. If the context points to a specific creation, perhaps using a less general term might help us better understand the word of God.

Mark 10:6 (NASB) But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE.

Here our choices are (1) the whole Universe or (2) humankind. Contextually humankind is the creation in view. So would not the actual intended message be "But from the beginning of humankind, God made them male and female?

Mark13:19 “For those days will be a time of tribulation such as has not occurred since the beginning of the creation which God created until now, and never will.

Here, again, tribulation refers to the hard times humankind will endure, and thus creation refers to humankind.

Mark16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

The creation in view again is humankind.

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

Here another New Testament writer (Paul) uses the phrase "creation of the world" to refer to the creation of humankind. Since the "creation" is specifically identified, "creation of humankind" better conveys the message. Clearly only humankind could see using some spiritual ability God's eternal power and divine nature.

Romans 1:25 For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.

Here it is not clear (at least to me) just what is being worshiped and served as if divine. Satan, idols made by hand, physical gratification all might be in view. I think "the creation" leaves open God's message.

Romans 8:19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God.

But here again, humankind is in view.

Romans 8:20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope

Once again we see humankind is in view. Those that think something more is in view cannot explain how those other things could "hope."

 

Does personification ring a bell?
Those that advocate reading between the lines are advocating liberal bible interpretation, which promotes false doctrine based on speculation and presupposition.

 

And once again the text is rewritten, so that creation (humankind) does not hope, but rocks do hope. Nonsense again and again.

 

And once again we get unreasoning absurdity, rather than sound reasoning. Rocks, water, air do not groan in anticipation of Christ's return. Such nonsense belongs back in the dark ages from where it came.

 

I have explained why your view is nonsense. I accepted the very words of the NT to derive my reasoned view, your view is absurd. Note Genesis 1:1 does not say the heaven (singular) and the earth, but heavens, of which according to their understanding included three heavens. So when you see "heaven" singular in the text, you must decide which of the three is in view.