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Limited Atonement: God's Power to Save

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Humble Disciple, Jul 15, 2021.

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  1. AustinC

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    Mercy is given to all, for a season, but God extends his saving grace only to whom he chooses.
    Faith is a gift to those God graciously saves. Jesus is the author and the finisher of this faith. Those who are not saved have substituted the Creator for the created and worship the created. God has abandoned them to their own passions. (Romans 1)

    As for myself, God chose to redeem me and save my by his grace, apart from any merit on my part. He daily brings me to repentance and daily renews my faith as he works to sanctify me and make me in the image of Christ Jesus. It is all God at work. When I try to take control, life gets messed up.

    It's all God. You and I are corrupt in our very nature. Own that truth, then thank God for His amazing grace.
     
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    This is where the teaching is derived from
    The gospel of John
     
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    They're identity is what you avoid when you claim to be a sheep. Your answer to your question;
    Jesus originally came to save the lost sheep of Israel. At the time the Gentiles were considered goats. When Christ turned to the Gentiles all men were included as possible sheep. The separation of the sheep and goats happens in the end.

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    Why do I bother you won't believe me anyway
     
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    Calvinist bunk
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    Romans 2:28-29 For no one is a Jew who is merely one outwardly, nor is circumcision outward and physical. But a Jew is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter. His praise is not from man but from God.

    Romans 9:6-8 But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel, and not all are children of Abraham because they are his offspring, but “Through Isaac shall your offspring be named.” This means that it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the promise are counted as offspring.

    The sheep have always been from every nation, tribe and tongue.
     
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    And thus you ignore God's word...
     
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    he must, as holds to full free will Gospel!
     
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    It's the truth don't you wish you had some truth? This is the last reply I'll write to you
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    Show the text where God explicitly says that man is saved by his free will.
    I will await that passage of scripture.
     
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    Six hour warning SAT)

    This thread will be closed no sooner than 330 am EDT (Sat) / 1230 am PDT (SAT)
     
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    John 15:16 You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.
     
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