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Does the Bible teach Original Sin?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Humble Disciple, Aug 2, 2021.

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  1. Yeshua1

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    All spiritually and physically died in Adam....
     
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    He got it from jesus Himself and paul!
     
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    I grant them the same tolerance they give me. Some times the truth hurts.
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    if not elect, not saved!
     
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    I don't believe that even for a moment
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    No one said..YOU...were responsible for Adams sin. Could you show that post?
    Gen1:31 says everything was good.
    Then Adam sinned.
    The first sin...is known as ORIGINAL...sin.
    Hope that helps you to begin to learn what is contained in the bible.
     
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    if not elect, not saved![/QUOTE]
    What no scripture Just your word . I don't believe in the says of men.
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    The first sin was committed by Eve
     
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    That is why you are in error in this area!
     
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    What no scripture Just your word . I don't believe in the says of men.
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    paul wrote that in Romans....
     
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    paul wrote that in Romans....[/QUOTE]
    I've read Romans so many times and never read that why not show it to me.
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    The term "died in Adam" is not in scriptur Whether or not spiritually or physcial
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    I've read Romans so many times and never read that why not show it to me.
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    Romans 8:33
     
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    Did the Fall affect all born after Adam and Eve? save for the Lord Jesus, due to His Virgin Birth?
     
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    In what way ? they weren't made sinners because of Adam and Eve. They did not suddenly have a sin nature because of it. They have the sin nature because we are all created with it Adan and Eve must have had a sin nature or they would not have sin. Adam and Eve sinned so they died. We sin so we die too. Adam wasn't perfect. He wasn't a god either.
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    Adam was created morally perfect, had no sin nature until the fall!
     
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    A sin nature does not make one immoral... Only sin does that.
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    sin nature means are hell bound and against God!
     
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    How was it then that Adam sinned so readily then . We have a sin nature so we sin because of it. God knew they would undoubtedly sin because they were created with a sin nature they sinned. The very fact that they did sin proves beyond a doubt they had a sin nature. You can argue 'till the cows come home because the fact they sinned proves they had a sin nature. They were perfect this is true but they conceived with in them selves to sin and they did. You're just denying the facts.
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    Adam nature became sinful when he choose to fall!
     
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    Well you have original sin or you have the origin of sin. If you hold to the latter you are in good company with atheists and darwinian theory of evolution. You then follow the path of humanism as the means of creating a utopia on earth.

    I accept the Biblical teaching that Adam broke the covenant between God and man, which resulted in all men being born under the curse and in need of reconciliation being justified by faith alone.
     
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