Featured Where does the Bible teach a pre-trib rapture?

I suppose you missed the quoting of Matthew 27:52-53 in my post? Christ is the first of the firstfruits.
But if you want to restrict it to Christ alone, fine, that doesn't change the fact that many saints rose from the dead at least 2,000 years before that first resurrection.

 

Guys, there is no rapture in Matthew 24. There:
The ones left are the saved ones.
The ones taken are the lost.
Like Noah's flood.
Mat_24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
The gathering there is from the corners of the earth to Zion.

Matthew 24 has nothing to do with 1Thessalonians 4.

 

You are right. I stand corrected. Apologies

Tribulation separates wheat and tares; false professions of faith will be revealed.

peace to you

 

Matthew 24 is talking about tribulation.

The ones taken are taken for persecution.

The ones left are urged to flee.

peace to you

 

If the rapture is after the tribulation which is what you are saying, then how can the rapture happen before wrath. God's wrath or the anti Christ? How can anti Christ be revealed with out the one who with holds back sin be removed? Please explain?
MB

 

My reply also addressed the possibility that you had not missed it.
So again, many saints rose from the dead long before the first resurrection because the first resurrection has more than 1 installment.

 

Those were not people raised before the resurrection of Christ, like the son of Nain's widow.
They are raised after and by Christ's resurrection.
And so the following applies to them:
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
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Rom 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
Rom 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.

Theirs was an eternal resurrection.
Indeed, he thereupon led captivity captive, When he ascended up on high.
Those people, along with the souls in Abraham's bosom, were taken up.

the first resurrection has more than one phase, just like a harvest: firstfruits, harvest, gleanings.
That's why we only read of the first resurrection at the beginning of the millennial kingdom, once the gleanings are in.
It's the one resurrection unto life, with the fruits coming in in three installments.

They will receive the kingdom at that time (of the kingdom) yes, but the eternal resurrection is theirs already.

 

I have a few more questions. You keep repeating the" Last Trump" .There is only one verse in the Bible that mentions the last trump Mathew only calls it a trumpet. The same with the book of revelations.
Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
The gathering of His elect are the 144000 Jews.Placed on earth to preach the gospel. I know you believe in election of yourself. Yet for me I don't believe in it for myself so I see this from a whole different perspective..
MB

 

I would not say meaningless because the 144000 have to be caught up to be with the Lord as well and they are elect. Thank you for your patience. I understand you better We can agree that we disagree on the raptures
MB

 

Concerning the pre-trib rapture. The rapture of the church can be considered as part of the harvest of this age. In Matt 13 Jesus gives us 7 parable to describe this entire age from the resurrection and ascension until his second coming at the end of it. He begins sowing his seed in the field, which he later identifies as the world. We read on and we find him at harvest time. It is a Jewish book so we will consider the harvest in the same way they viewed it. Here it is in a three fold picture. Three in one and one in three, the Trinatarian signature. It is everywhere in the scriptures.

1) The first fruits
2) The main harvest
3) The gleanings

The first fruit of the harvest is a given. No one in his right mind would deny the resurrection of Jesus Christ and many OT saints because Jesus said his resurrection is the first fruits. The main part of the harvest is the rapture of the church and the gleanings are the resurrection of those saints who died in the tribulation, just like the scriptures says. This is one resurrection with 3 parts. The resurrection of the wicked dead is after the 1000 years of Re 20, just like the scripture says.

Please do not confuse the resurrection and deny it.

 

Not with Romans 6 under our noses it's not.
Saying they died is speculation, even less than that given Romans 6 and Ephesians 4.