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Another blame God for mans sin post and thread.

 

"SavedByGrace,
(Reformed/Calvinistic "theology" when it comes to the Doctrine of Salvation, is VERY CONFUSING, )

It is to people who blame God, for the sin of man.
When Adam fell he plunged man into the realm of sin and death.
Reality is confusing to natural man as sin has corrupted and perverted his spirit, and darkened his understanding.Eph2 explains this.
When God draws those persons elected before the world was, they get their mind restored , like the demoniac who was healed, but then was sitting, clothed, and in his right mind.

 

Lots of hatred coming from his keyboard.

 

Jesus cast out religious demons several times.In luke4:33-37.
Earlier Jesus preached the doctrine of election in lk4.:25-29...and those religious people hated the Lord and His word...hated to a point of being filled with wrath.
He could has said whosoever will may come all day long,but they hated Him and the Truth He preached.

 

Yes.Religious people lash out when they cannot welcome truth offered.
That is why a new heart is neccessary.
When people are taught error as truth,
They will attempt to hold on to such error thinking they are defending the bible that is why it is written they oppose themself2tim.2:24-26

 

I am sorry but I cannot "help you out" of your view of scripture. I have tried. Our future bodily redemption is described in Romans 8:23. As you know, salvation has three aspects, our past positional sanctification (being placed into Christ) our current progressive sanctification (being conformed to the image of Christ) and our future ultimate sanctification (our bodily redemption).

 

There is a verse in the Bible to prove every teaching out there.
Which dispensation/age are you quoting from?

 

Well SBG, I wasn't finished. I have spent most of my life not as a Calvinist. I have had people tell me "At least I had sense enough to get saved", I have been "soul winning" with a guy who I saw reach out and grab a prospects hand as he asked him to "take my hand if you accept Jesus", I have heard pastors say to a young person as far as getting saved "they better take care of that", I have been through invitations that were an emotional buildup from largely a patriotic war story or a story about someone's mom. I have been in a Sunday school class where they had a calendar of "spiritual birthdays" where if you ever worried about your salvation all you had to to was look at the chart. I have seen missionaries who literally wept because some tribal elder could not understand the gospel and they personally thought it was their fault that he was going to Hell because they couldn't learn the language before he died. I know a lot of people who went forward years ago, live exactly like the world, no change in their lives and believe their action saved them.

I try to be fair and admit things that I as a person with no formal theological training have difficulty understanding in the Calvinistic system. You then take that and try to sucker punch the Calvinists on here.

 

being conformed to the image of Christ, in context, is not sanctification, as is commonly preached; but it is the adoption/bodily resurrection whereupon we take on the physical image of Christ.

But I agree with you in essence.

 

Yes, I agree being conformed might not point to progressive sanctification, but growing more "Christ-like" and becoming a better servant does fit with scripture. 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8