1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Featured Reformed Salvation

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by SavedByGrace, Nov 23, 2021.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Repentance is saying sorry for your personal sins to the Lord, and faith is trusting Jesus as Saviour and Lord
     
  2. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    21,242
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    You do not understand the " The passages you " Offered
     
  3. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    243
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Well.... Let's not pretend that you have no theological bias in reading scripture.

    The Archangel
     
  4. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Prove me wrong then :rolleyes:
     
  5. Silverhair

    Silverhair Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2020
    Messages:
    7,270
    Likes Received:
    559
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I agree we need some kind of organized teaching, which we do have. It is called the bible. Now all we have to do is get people to trust it rather that trust what some men tell them that it means.
     
  6. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Correct me
     
  7. DaveXR650

    DaveXR650 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2021
    Messages:
    2,896
    Likes Received:
    344
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Again. Foreknowledge is knowing something will happen in the future. For you and me, it is actually impossible but to the extent it is - it's based on probability. Foreknowledge that God would have is 100% sure because he makes it so or allows it to happen. If he makes it so then he caused it, if he allows it to happen then he at least ordains it - because he could have stopped it if he wanted. It may be flawed, but it is logical and it is what the reformers meant when they said ordained.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  8. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    243
    Faith:
    Baptist
    False. Louw and Nida is helpful here: μετανοέω (Repentance) to change one’s way of life as the result of a complete change of thought and attitude with regard to sin and righteousness—‘to repent, to change one’s way, repentance.’

    Johannes P. Louw and Eugene Albert Nida, Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament: Based on Semantic Domains (New York: United Bible Societies, 1996), 509.

    That's a whole lot more than saying "sorry."

    The Archangel
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
  9. Iconoclast

    Iconoclast Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2010
    Messages:
    21,242
    Likes Received:
    2,305
    Faith:
    Non Baptist Christian
    If I'm working right now give me a couple of days and I'll do a thread on what I think could be helpful for you
     
  10. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    243
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Some things are self-evident and require no further proof. It is preposterous to suggest that Calvinists read their theology into scripture while those like you do not.

    The Archangel
     
  11. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I gave the basic meaning which is not wrong
     
  12. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    I don't. So please speak for yourself
     
  13. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Both of those being gifts granted to us by God!
     
    • Winner Winner x 1
  14. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    243
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You're the one arguing that saved = born again. You've argued that we need to
    No. it is wrong. Repentance does not mean "saying you're sorry."

    The Archangel
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  15. AustinC

    AustinC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 29, 2020
    Messages:
    10,911
    Likes Received:
    1,458
    Faith:
    Baptist
    This is why I don't trust what you say. :Cool
     
  16. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You act as if they actually wanted to know God though!
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
  17. SavedByGrace

    SavedByGrace Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 14, 2020
    Messages:
    10,454
    Likes Received:
    451
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Calvinists just fail to grasp what the Bible actually says on salvation
     
  18. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    243
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Ah... so you're immune from any type of bias. That's perhaps the only statement you've made that is more ridiculous than your so-called "theology."

    The Archangel
     
    • Funny Funny x 1
  19. Yeshua1

    Yeshua1 Well-Known Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 19, 2012
    Messages:
    52,624
    Likes Received:
    2,742
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You outright rejection of any form of Calvinism suggests already bring preconceived theology into bible reading!
     
  20. The Archangel

    The Archangel Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 21, 2003
    Messages:
    3,357
    Likes Received:
    243
    Faith:
    Baptist
    You're the one arguing that saved = born again. If being born again is the same as getting saved, and you believe we act first in salvation (which it is abundantly clear that you do), and if John 3 speaks of born-again in the passive voice (which it does), then "born again" is not something you can do for yourself. Because in Greek the passive means the subject is being acted upon, not doing the action.

    The Archangel
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...