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DaveXR650

DaveXR650

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Silverhair said:
I agree we need some kind of organized teaching, which we do have. It is called the bible. Now all we have to do is get people to trust it rather that trust what some men tell them that it means.
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I actually agree with that - but as you can see from the posts here we're getting a lot of private interpretation. If we can go through scripture and pick out isolated verses we can come up with almost anything and history proves that. You are allowed and should listen to other people on how they view scripture. You can see the results if you don't.
 
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DaveXR650 said:
I actually agree with that - but as you can see from the posts here we're getting a lot of private interpretation. If we can go through scripture and pick out isolated verses we can come up with almost anything and history proves that. You are allowed and should listen to other people on how they view scripture. You can see the results if you don't.
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That really meant" do not allowing for ANY Reforrmed teaching, as obvious all wrong"
 
SavedByGrace

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The Archangel said:
You're the one arguing that saved = born again. If being born again is the same as getting saved, and you believe we act first in salvation (which it is abundantly clear that you do), and if John 3 speaks of born-again in the passive voice (which it does), then "born again" is not something you can do for yourself. Because in Greek the passive means the subject is being acted upon, not doing the action.

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Dude I thought you understand Greek :eek:
 
The Archangel

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SavedByGrace said:
Really, and where in the Bible do do read this? "After the fall is no ability not to sin"
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There are many places where Paul argues that we are "slaves to sin." He states that anything that doesn't come from faith is a sin in Romans. It's all over scripture. I guess you bias toward Pelagianism doesn't let you see it.

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SavedByGrace

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The Archangel said:
There are many places where Paul argues that we are "slaves to sin." He states that anything that doesn't come from faith is a sin in Romans. It's all over scripture. I guess you bias toward Pelagianism doesn't let you see it.

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Time you started a new thread
 
The Archangel

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SavedByGrace said:
Titus 3.5. What I have said is correct Greek
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No, it isn't. In Titus 3:5, The main verb is "He saves" referring to God. So, the simple sentence is "God saves us by the washing of regeneration." So, it is God who regenerates, not we ourselves. That is in alignment with John's use of the passive voice in John 3.

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SavedByGrace

SavedByGrace

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No, it isn't. In Titus 3:5, The main verb is "He saves" referring to God. So, the simple sentence is "God saves us by the washing of regeneration." So, it is God who regenerates, not we ourselves. That is in alignment with John's use of the passive voice in John 3.

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Now you are taking nonsense

I said that the word regeneration in the Greek means literally BORN AGAIN. are you saying that I am wrong
 
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