We just agree with Romans and Galatians regarding it!Calvinists just fail to grasp what the Bible actually says on salvation
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We just agree with Romans and Galatians regarding it!Calvinists just fail to grasp what the Bible actually says on salvation
I actually agree with that - but as you can see from the posts here we're getting a lot of private interpretation. If we can go through scripture and pick out isolated verses we can come up with almost anything and history proves that. You are allowed and should listen to other people on how they view scripture. You can see the results if you don't.I agree we need some kind of organized teaching, which we do have. It is called the bible. Now all we have to do is get people to trust it rather that trust what some men tell them that it means.
You outright rejection of any form of Calvinism suggests already bring preconceived theology into bible reading!
That really meant" do not allowing for ANY Reforrmed teaching, as obvious all wrong"I actually agree with that - but as you can see from the posts here we're getting a lot of private interpretation. If we can go through scripture and pick out isolated verses we can come up with almost anything and history proves that. You are allowed and should listen to other people on how they view scripture. You can see the results if you don't.
You're the one arguing that saved = born again. If being born again is the same as getting saved, and you believe we act first in salvation (which it is abundantly clear that you do), and if John 3 speaks of born-again in the passive voice (which it does), then "born again" is not something you can do for yourself. Because in Greek the passive means the subject is being acted upon, not doing the action.
The Archangel
Really, and where in the Bible do do read this? "After the fall is no ability not to sin"
We just agree with Romans and Galatians regarding it!
So Pauline Justification is wrong? and does that mean we are in same boat as the Mormons and JW then?Calvinistic teaching on salvation is mainly heretical
There are many places where Paul argues that we are "slaves to sin." He states that anything that doesn't come from faith is a sin in Romans. It's all over scripture. I guess you bias toward Pelagianism doesn't let you see it.
The Archangel
Dude I thought you understand Greek![]()
So Pauline Justification is wrong? and does that mean we are in same boat as the Mormons and JW then?
Cop-out.
The Archangel
In what way are you suggesting that I don't?
The Archangel
Did you not see the 6 hours warning on this thread closing. Also I live in England and it is close to bed time
Repentance is saying sorry for your personal sins to the Lord, and faith is trusting Jesus as Saviour and Lord
Titus 3.5. What I have said is correct Greek
Still.... a convenient excuse for you to make.
The Archangel
No, it isn't. In Titus 3:5, The main verb is "He saves" referring to God. So, the simple sentence is "God saves us by the washing of regeneration." So, it is God who regenerates, not we ourselves. That is in alignment with John's use of the passive voice in John 3.
The Archangel
I am very sick and need to rest. So have some understanding