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According to Genesis 1:1, "In the beginning God created the heaven . . . ." God is omnipresent.
Acts of the Apostles 17:28, ". . . For in Him we live, and move, and have our being [existence] . . . ."

No. Not unless one wants to argue that there never was God.
For example atheist Ayn Rand argued, Existence exists.

 

Yes, as before there was anything else, was just from eternity the truine God!

 

Again, if a “place” existed that God did not create and was where He existed prior to creating anything, then something other than God is eternal. God would cease to be unique and the possibility of infinite “places” where infinite “gods” existed must be considered.

I don’t care what attests say.

peace to you

 

I wonder if a difficulty is the assumption “place” must mean something tangible that fits within our parameters of a physical propertied existence.

God is spirit, and in that existence the physical properties have no real bearing.

Nor is it given that this is the first and only creation.

It is not given fr us to know.

 

The problem with such speculation is it can lead to heresy. The Mormons believe in infinite universes and if they live really good lives they become a “god” and rule their own universe.

Best to just stick with what the Bible says. It is good enough to speculate on how wonderful heaven is and then living in the presence of God. That will occupy my mind.

peace to you

 

God's Hebrew Name being who God IS makes such a claim impossibe. Only God alone can be the self Existent one there is none else. Also only genuine Christians today know God. Romans 8:9 and Romans 8:16. 1 John 5:9-12. John 17:3, John 14:6.

 

God being the fundamental self evident truth by which all other self evident truths are self evident. Again, Acts of the Apostles 17:28, "In Him we live and move and have our being . . . ." Anything which exists, exists solely within God being the sole self existent one being omnipresent.

 

Salty I'm surprised that no responded to Reynolds in post #27?... He nailed it!... Brother Glen

Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:

1:13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:

1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

 

That would result in pantheism, as God and the Universe are one!

 

Please explain what you mean by “God and the universe are one”?

peace to you

 

IF there was never "just God" and there was also heaven or the Universe, that would mean that they all are eternal, and thus all somehow part of God and he part of them

 

God is not part of His creation. But His creation is in Him by reason God is omnipresent. "In Him we live and move and have our being . . . ."

It also bears repeating:

God being the fundamental self evident truth by which all other self evident truths are self evident.

 

Scripture simply doesn’t support that theory.

As I said earlier, this kind of speculation will ultimately lead to error and heresy.

Thanks for the comment

peace to you

 

Before there was any Creation at all, their existed ONLY the truine God!

 

God is outside and beyond his creation, and he chooses when to become part and in it

 

Just saying that God alone is eternal Being, period

 

I agree. Thanks for clarifying. I understood what you said, but never hurts to be clear.

peace to you

 

God is omnipresent. And cannot not be omniscient. Except by way of His Son. And even His Son as God is omnipresent.

 

All 3 Persons of the Godhead are fully Omni, all knowing, all powerful etc!

 

The only thing without a first cause is God. Heaven is God's Throne, and all thrones, dominions and principalities were created by Him and for Him. Col. 1:16