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It was inspired and revealed to Him by Lord Jesus , its in Romans!

 

I know where it is. All Paul did was to write the very Words of the Holy Spirit

 

You know nothing of the fact, as the wrath of God was in the OT, as stored up as the Bowls and Cups of wrath as described by the OT prophets, and that was the Cup of suffering Jesus was talking to the father concerning , as he was not dreading mere physical death, but the wrath of the father poured out onto him and Him experiencing hell while upon that Cross, as tasting being forsaken by father due to being sin bearer for His people!

 

Jesus took upon himself in his person the wrath and judgement of God due to us as being sinners, is hell not God being wrathful?

 

God has wrath to be expressed towards sinners to be executed at the second coming event, correct?

 

Your blow and bluster is really funny. You do not even respond to all the verses that I posted and then go on a rant you think proves something.
Note my response was to your ONE verse in post #96 [1Ti 1:9] I agree that we should look at the complete sentence but you have cut it short, why is that? Do you not like what that last two verses say?
"In the Greek text, Eph_1:3-14 is one sentence, which is considered by some scholars to be the most cumbersome sentence in the Greek language!" BKC

I agree God knows all that will freely come to Him. When the gospel is proclaimed man has the option to accept or reject it. Rom_1:16; Rom_10:14-17; 1Th_2:13

You may want to follow the Calvinist view but I do not.

 

Your cognitive dissonance is once again on display.

 

I agree... He knows none will freely come to Him...read psalm 14, and romans3...no one seeks God no not one...yet you foolishly suggest such ideas.




NO..man cannot understand: He rejects it every time, He does not have an option except in your made up theology. once again you take verses that speak of the already drawn to faith elect and try andput the result before the drawing .



Calvinists follow the truth of scripture, you do not want those truths[/QUOTE]

Well since you think that you should follow a man "Calvin" you do that I will follow the Bible. I have seen enough of your blow and bluster on here to see that truth is not what you are looking for. You just want people to justify your Calvinist theology. I am sure Austin and a few others will be happy to do that for you.

 

i did not mention calvin, just scripture. Fact is you cannot deal with it.
you have come into the deep end of the pool, go back to the kiddie pool till you learn to swim.[/QUOTE]

You do not have to mention Calvin your words show that you follow him and seem to have no regard for scripture. When you stop twisting scripture or replacing words then perhaps you will really start to understand what the purpose of God was and is.

You seem to be so blinded by the TULIP that you have lost the ability to read the clear text of scripture. Your pride will be your downfall.

 

What dissonance do you think exists? I just take God at His word, why don't you?

 

If, as you say, you take God at His word you would not say and believe the things you do.

 

The only thing that is not happening is you offering scripture that teaches anything.
You calling me names or invoking the name of Calvin does nothing.
Calvin forgot more scripture than you know.
Make your best scriptural case.
Looks like everyone is answering you with no problem.[/QUOTE]

Funny you never answer the scripture that I have posted, all we see from you is blow and bluster. How many others on here have pointed out your miss reading of text and yet you still hold to the TULIP & Calvin. I did not realize that saying someone was a Calvinist was calling them names.

 

i did not mention calvin, just scripture. Fact is you cannot deal with it.
you have come into the deep end of the pool, go back to the kiddie pool till you learn to swim.[/QUOTE]
Typical Asinine putdowns and attacks by a Calvinist! Thanks for once again proving what many who hold the view of free will have pointed out time and again. Fruitless debates over Calvinism/Arminianism is STUUUUUUPPPPPPPIIIIIIIDDDDDDD~!

 

You didn't answer the question.

 

This is typical shallow evangelical 'populate heaven' mindset. Perpetual preaching of the word has always been God's arrangement to feed the saints in the temporal realm.

10 For as the rain cometh down and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but watereth the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, and giveth seed to the sower and bread to the eater;
11 so shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. Isa 55

Feed My lambs...tend My sheep...feed My sheep... Jn 21:15-17

28 Take heed unto yourselves, and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit hath made you bishops, to feed the church of the Lord which he purchased with his own blood. Acts 20

1 The elders among you I exhort, who am a fellow-elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, who am also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:
2 Tend the flock of God which is among you, exercising the oversight, not of constraint, but willingly, according to the will of God; nor yet for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;
3 neither as lording it over the charge allotted to you, but making yourselves ensamples to the flock. `1 Pet 5

Modern day 'evangelism' has minimized the gospel down to a tool the Church uses to populate heaven, a formula whereby anyone can obtain immortality simply by following the instructions and repeating the incantation. If you removed the cross from the preaching it'd be pure paganism.