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No, those who hear do so because they have ears to hear (seems like I have heard/read that somewhere...) and they are the ones chosen by God already. Predestined (hmm, I've heard/read that somewhere before too). So no, I do not have a comprehension problem, nor do I ignore Romans 10. I simply don't ignore the rest of Romans either.

 

Did I question if God foreknew , NO what you have a problem with is the idea that God actually foreknew those that would freely choose to trust in Him. Free will is not the big boogeyman that you calvinists seem to think it is.

The word can and actually does mean different things depending upon the context. "To perceive or recognize beforehand, know previously, take into account or specially consider beforehand, to grant prior acknowledgement or recognition to someone, to foreknow." WSD

Did God know that His son would go to the cross, YES. Did God know that some people would freely trust in His son for salvation, YES. It is only you calvinists that have a problem with this and it seems to be a major stumbling block for you. But it is your stumbling block not mine.

 

You just read into the text what you want to find. You have such a low view of what God can do. Does He desire that all come to faith, YES. Did He provide the way for people to come to salvation, YES. Can anyone trust in His son and be saved, YES.

You can think what you want but I would rather think that the God that is love actually loves His creation, that He actually wants all to be saved, that His son actually died to redeem the world, that man is actually responsible to decide if he wants to trust in the son for salvation or reject Him and be condemned.

God is sovereign, why don't you calvinists let Him be.

 

That is not biblical foreknowledge.

 

And again, your view is humanistic, not biblical. Man is responsible for his salvation in your view, not God.

 

Not according to Jesus, but I guess His theology was wrong...

 

I don't care what you would rather. That is proof you don't care about what Scripture states. You hold to your humanism.

 

That is what you say but I really do not think must of what you say so I will just ignore it.

 

And in your view God is responsible for the billions that are condemned to hell just because He can as they have no hope of salvation as God does not provide a way for them to be.

 

So your telling me that these verses are not in your bible, may be time you get a new one.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
Joh 3:15 that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.
For God So Loved the World
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Joh 3:17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.
Joh 3:18 "He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

 

Take off the blinders and just trust the bible. Your calvinism is just misleading you. When you deny clear scripture then it is obvious to all Christians that you do not trust the bible but instead just trust your own version of the bible.

 

For WHOM He did foreknow...not what...

 

Sounds like the Synod of Dort is once again in session

 

Are you saying that you can not read the rest of the verse?

 

Didn't attend the first one, but I hear it was quite the party.

 

You do not know and you do not care.got it.

 

In your view, God is irrelevant and could be an inanimate object for all it matters because it is 100% man who picks the god he wants as his object of worship.

In your view, your god is an idol of your own making whom you choose in hopes he gives you heaven. You are responsible for you and your god is ambivalent.

See how that kind of projection works, Silverhair. Since I assert it, how can I be wrong. And, if you show me wrong, I get to project it again and again and again, simply because I can, even if others show that I misspoke.

Silverhair, you keep asserting falsehood, over and over again, as though somehow it will magically be true. If you can do that, what could possibly make my statement about your belief inaccurate? Maybe if I just keep stating it over and over and over again, it will be true.
Shall we play your game?

 

So you're telling me that these verses teach free will?

 

He reads the WHOLE verse. WHOM is important don't ya know?

 

Oh their in my Bible, what I am telling you is you are probably one of the worst biblical interpreters I have ever seen. You want to cherry pick verses, sometimes even parts of verses, ignore context, and exclaim that you are the bastion of biblical truth.

Those verses have nothing to do with free will. They have nothing to do with the ability of man to come to Christ.