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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Guido, Mar 24, 2022.

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  1. Reformed1689

    Reformed1689 Well-Known Member

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    Apparently we are not allowed to state a person is being dishonest when they clearly are. If you give someone's position, they tell you that is not their position, and you continue to say that it is or intentionally twist their position. That is dishonest. It is ridiculous that we are not allowed to call this out!
     
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    Apparently you can't say they are lying. I spent a ban for doing that (even though the poster was lying). But, you can say, disingenuous or speaking falsehood without reprimand. It's all semantics. Kind of an odd legalism here that allows heresy to be proclaimed without reprimand.
     
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    I regurgitate scripture and you twist it to say calvin. It's a disingenuous way of ignoring the scripture you hate.
     
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    So...predestined, in your world doesn't mean determined previous to that point???
    Honestly, its as if you just ignore exact wording in the Bible and replace with whatever you feel ike.
     
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    Silverhair Well-Known Member

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    Well IMHO if your say you get your beliefs from the bible perhaps you need more study time.
     
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    I do not believe in absolute free will either but that is not what the bible says we have is it. The fact that you keep running back to that old canard is telling. Man has a God given free will but he does not have an absolute free will, is that clear enough for you. Doubt this will stop you from resorting to this canard but as they say "hope springs eternal".
     
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    But then again you can not or rather will not be truthful about the errors in that theology. But that is your choice just as it is my choice to reject your man-made theology.
     
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    Well if you think God makes mistakes that is on you not me. I give you the verses that show God allows and actually expects man to make choices. If you do not want to believe them, which from your post is your position, then that is on you.
     
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    ...and you accept your man-made theology, which is more awful than Reformed theology. You are a strange duck.
     
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    Except you aren't rejecting my theology. I don't know what it is you are rejecting but it is not what I believe that is for sure.
     
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    Oh so you are Calvinist now?
     
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    Sarcasm now, how very adult of you.
     
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    Since you do not seem to like the bible I am not surprised that you disagree with what the bible says.
     
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    From all that I have read on here that you have posted I would not agree with any of it as it does not agree with the bible. So you can call your theology Calvinist, reformed, or in your case reformed1689ism. You still deny scripture so you can have it I will stick with the bible.
     
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    You only wish. Then I would not continue to point out the errors of that theology.
     
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    That's interesting because that is what we think about you.
     
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    Again, don't know what theology you are talking about.
     
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    I do not deny one iota of Scripture. Let me ask you this, was Jesus correct when he said only those that the Father grants can come to him?
     
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    Sarcasm yes, but a very legitimate point.
     
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    I feel like a record that skips, repeating over and over again that I love the Bible, but you, Silverhair, are not the Bible. You seem to actually think that you are the Bible. Let me repeat. You are not the Bible. Silverhair, you are not the Bible. Silverhair, you are not the Bible. Silverhair, you are not the Bible.

    I disagree with what you say. Let me repeat. I disagree with what you say. I disagree with what you say.
    Silverhair, you are not the Bible. I disagree with what you say.

    Anyone reading this, not named Silverhair, is there something I am being unclear about in what I have just said?
     
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