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I didn't ask you about Calvin. I asked:
What does the Bible say about being chosen, elected and predestined?

So far you have not shown us you know what the Bible says about being chosen, elected, and predestined.

 

This is the same option I provided, Jon.

Unless you are subtlety saying men work their way into heaven, which would then secure you as a humanist.

 

John 3:16–21 For God so loved the world,

of "the world of the Gentiles" and "all sorts of men, agreeably to the use of the phrase in 1 Timothy 2:1 are here intended, kings and peasants, rich and poor, bond and free, male and female, young and old, greater and lesser sinners; "..."and particularly the Gentiles"..."as well as the Jews, and therefore Heathens, and Heathen magistrates, ... as well as Jewish ones, however NOT Just the JEWS, as was and had to be emphasized at that time...

"that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him"

of "the world of the Gentiles" and "all sorts of men, agreeably to the use of the phrase in 1 Timothy 2:1 are here intended, kings and peasants, rich and poor, bond and free, male and female, young and old, greater and lesser sinners; "..."and particularly the Gentiles"..."as well as the Jews, and therefore Heathens, and Heathen magistrates, ... as well as Jewish ones, however NOT Just the JEWS, as was and had to be emphasized at that time...

"shall not perish, but have eternal life."

It is possible to know the Truth, but not everyone does, 'will', or can.

The key is whether their Adamic nature rules in false religious dogma, such as "_____" means "_____" no matter how many times it does not mean "_______".

 

That is not my opinion that is biblical truth. Calling calvinism is an opinion...you do know what they say about opinions right!?

 

Amazing how you think it started with Augustine and don't know history.

 

You calvinists have to get over this idea that God has to be fair. Why are you stuck on that false idea? God is just but you do not understand that. Man is in hell because God is just, those that reject Him are condemned those that believe will be in heaven. That seems to be a real hard concept for the average calvinist to grasp.

Divine determinism is the calvinist idea. You have God determine all things and then say well not all things. You can not seem to make up your minds.

And again it is you that keeps saying God is unfair not me. Try to remember that.

 

That is just a falsehood that the average calvinist keeps telling themselves. You deny scripture or twist it to make it fit your theology, that is not truth.

 

which is what your OP is doing, rewriting it.

 

Actually calvinist determinism is the main factor as it determines what the outcome is to be according to calvinism. What calvinist deny is that those that God chooses to save are those that freely trust in His son.

 

These four fallacies are linked logically together, thus like a house of card, if any one is false, then they are all false. The "T" claims no one ever seeks God, while fallen and unregenerate, but Matthew 23:13 demonstrates some of the unsaved do seek God as they were in the process of entering the kingdom. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 demonstrates we are chosen for salvation through faith in the truth, thus a conditional election, rather than the false doctrine of the "U." 1 Timothy 2:6 demonstrates that Christ died for all humanity when considered in light of 2 Peter 2:1 where even those heading for swift destruction were bought by the Master. Lastly the "I" (Irresistible Grace) is demonstrated false by 2 Thessalonians 2:13 because we cannot be given faith after being chosen since we are chosen by way of our pre-existing faith.

 

Alan Gross said: ↑
That is just a colloquial acronym for 'The Truth', of the Triune Godhead's Eternal Covenant and Plan of Salvation.

The Triune Godhead's Eternal Covenant and Plan of Salvation began in Eternity Past.

 

In a logical manner, Explain to me HOW it brings Him glory.

 

Who is them? I assume Calvinists. Lordship Salvation is not agreed upon by Calvinists. They are split on it.

 

the Attributes of God are all perfect, but his chief ones are Holy and Love, as both are needed to have a perfect God!

And did not the Lord choose and favor out Israel and the Jews from among all nations and peoples of the time, was he wrong to do such then?

 

That author never really understood Tulip nor real Calvinism!

 

he seems to have a real problem with the sovereignty of God, and the end result of those who have rejected Christ!