Featured King James Onlyism and Missions

Some have that understanding. Others give differnent order of writing.

 

I have no problem with a perfect Bible before the KJV, but I do have a problem with one hundred of them in the same language in a span of one hundred and fifty years. It makes God appear as an imbecile or totally detached from the world he wants to save.

Are you making the case that people who have not read these books cannot intelligently comment on the scriptures? Are you making the case that reading these books makes a person more spiritual? What does a people or a nation need first, a Bible written in their own language or a preacher preaching in their language in your view? Is there a biblical precedent?

 

Which one would it have been?

 

Says a man who thinks it is something that elevates his stature in the eyes of God to be elected by him to be ungodly.

6 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.

So yes, we want to hear what you have to say, for sure.

 

No, that is what your position makes you look like.

 

No, we have a history with the KJV. America was discovered and a migration from mostly Europe, the west, began. We speak English over here.It is just a biblical fact that God moves west. He had to get his missionaries and other preachers out of countries where they have state churches and establish a place where the government could not control his church. America is that place.

God curses those regimes that attempt to mix religion and the government. Did you know Saul lost his dynasty for this very reason? He, the king, entered into the priest office and offered sacrifices.

 

d took it from him and gave it to the house of David.

You know, your posting style and manner of posting, which I will call, "stirring the pot," reminds me of a proverb in the book of wisdom, which says the following;

Proverbs 30:33
Surely the churning of milk bringeth forth butter, and the wringing of the nose bringeth forth blood: so the forcing of wrath bringeth forth strife.

To put every person, such as myself, who believes that God can give a perfect testimony of himself in any language he chooses, And to believe that men, no matter how worldly, does not have the capacity to translate the spiritual content of his infinite mind using words of their own choosing, even to the point of paraphrasing him, into the Ruckman/Riplinger mindset is dishonest. This is especially true when I have specifically said that women preachers are outside their functional purpose in the body of Christ. I am not interested in the theology of women. It is on display all around us now and it is causing massive confusion. Thank you NIV.

To deal with one point of your comments above.

The sad thing here is, Riplinger probably knows the scripture better than you. The scripture indeed does have Christians glorifying it, if you will accept that the "word of the Lord" was written after he spoke it.

2 Thessalonians 3:1
Finally, brethren, pray for us, that the word of the Lord may have free course, and be glorified, even as it is with you:

This reminds me when you boldly rebuked her in another thread for suggesting that the word of God was being corrupted. You responded that the word of God cannot be corrupted. I knew then that you were not familiar with the following quote, but I said nothing because I am not here to defend Riplinger. However, one does learn things by a persons words.

2 Corinthians 2:17
For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

It just goes to show you that spending all of this time reading all these books you post has the potential of making one 1/2 mile wide and 1/4 inch deep in the true doctrines of the faith. Just saying!

 

The context was what you fellows believe, not what I believe. The point was that in the group of these great men who have exercised their callings so well that they became an example for others, no Japanese names ever come up. These are English names, or at the least names of men from western nations.

I would never speak evil of Baptist missionaries, unless they were the kind that will not give an invitation to come and be saved. There are some of them.

 

The strawman of one hundred English Bibles widely distributed or regularly read has already been pointed out. Probably only a dozen or less of them are widely distributed or regularly read. There was around that many in print when yet another English Bible translation was made in 1611.

If a perfect English Bible translation had been made before 1611, the Church of England makers of the KJV changed or corrupted it.

 

Those translations are still around. They are just as effective as they ever were. The nations who produced them are more in darkness now than when they were produced. I think there is something to learn here.

 

This isn't the fault of the translations. It's the sinfulness of man's heart that makes them fall into "more darkness" than when those translations were produced. Straw man argument on your part.

 

Well, I think you are right. So we can thank God he took his bible, which is light, farther West, where it could shine on some who would see. He left the others over there where they still are now. Everything was good until, in 1901, their philosophy was shipped over here and things have gone down hill since. Nothing like a little darkness to beget more darkness. Paul said, a little leaven leaventh the whole lump. We are not heading towards victory because of these new bibles, we are heading towards destruction.

Jesus asks the rhetorical question, when I come again will I find faith on the earth. Societies do not get better, they get worse and we have Noah as an example. Only eight people survived that judgement. Hopefully we will do a little better than that in the next round but I have read the text. Few there be that find the straight gate, Jesus said. I believe him.

 

Are you saying the King of England made the KJV mandatory for the church? Do you know what it means to combine church and state?

The Church of England was Catholicism redefined without the Pope. That is all it was.

 

Sincerely doubt that this is because of the translations. In all of them there is the verse that states that the "gates of hell" would not prevail against the church.

 

And?