Featured "Righteous faith"

*John 6:26-37*
Jesus replied, “I tell you the truth, you want to be with me because I fed you, not because you understood the miraculous signs. But don’t be so concerned about perishable things like food. Spend your energy seeking the eternal life that the Son of Man can give you. For God the Father has given me the seal of his approval.” They replied, “We want to perform God’s works, too. What should we do?” Jesus told them, “This is the only work God wants from you: Believe in the one he has sent.” They answered, “Show us a miraculous sign if you want us to believe in you. What can you do? After all, our ancestors ate manna while they journeyed through the wilderness! The Scriptures say, ‘Moses gave them bread from heaven to eat.’” Jesus said, “I tell you the truth, Moses didn’t give you bread from heaven. My Father did. And now he offers you the true bread from heaven. The true bread of God is the one who comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.” “Sir,” they said, “give us that bread every day.” Jesus replied, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never be hungry again. Whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. But you haven’t believed in me even though you have seen me. However, those the Father has given me will come to me, and I will never reject them.

 

Van's merited salvation message.
Not sound doctrine and not taught in God's word.

 

Perhaps you would like to show me exactly where in Matthew 13, we are told that anyone believed with 'unrighteous faith'? What is 'kinda obvious' is that this is a concoction of your own.
What does the Bible say about soils #2 and #3? It says that the 'stony ground hearer' 'endures only for a while. For when tribulation or persecution arises because of the word, immediately he stumbles.' And of the 'among the thorns' hearer, we learn that 'the cares of this world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word....' So the faith of these people is not somehow declared unrighteous; it does not last. 'He who endures to the end shall be saved.' A testing comes upon each of these people - persecution to one and plenty to the other - and they fail. But those who are born again by the Spirit of God (1v Peter 1:3) endure. 'In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to the praise honour and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ' (1 Peter 1:6-7).

The test is not whether one believes with 'righteous faith' but whether faith endures. But if anyone is one of our Lord's sheep, he will endure. His sheep were given to Him by the Father to redeem (John 17:24) and He will not lose even a single one (John 10:27-28), despite all the wiles of the devil (Matthew 24:24).

 

No, no and no. In that order. I will deal with these errors later on.

 

Propitiation is a sacrifice that turns away wrath (Romans 3:25-26). By paying the penalty for our sins in full the Lord Jesus has turned away the righteous anger of God towards those for whom He died.

Redemption is what Christ has accomplished for us by His suffering and death. It is the buying back of something that was lost. We were lost and Christ has bought us back (revelation 5:9).
Reconciliation = the result of salvation, being at one with God.[/QUOTE] Through the suffering and shed blood of Christ, the legal, ethical barrier between men and God is removed (2 Corinthians 5:21). We were enemies of God (Romans 5:10), but were reconciled by the death of Christ.

My main objection to Van's attempts at definition is that they have no mention of the cross.

 

More false doctrine! Propitiation is not the 'means' of anything. God's righteous anger against sin is propitiated by the suffering and death of Christ. Therefore those for whom He died are justified, i.e. declared righteous..

Next, Van's false doctrine asserts redemption is the action of God to transfer individuals of His choosing from the realm of darkness into Christ's spiritual body. In fact God's elect were given to Christ to redeem before the creation of the world (Ephesians 1:4).

Further, Van does not understand that to 'redeem' means to 'buy back.' He also does not realise that if the Lord Jesus bought the whole of humanity, then the whole of humanity would be saved. But somehow he believes that although Christ bought them, His Father confiscated them.
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Finally Martin's mistaken understanding of "reconciliation" is demonstrated by the fact God has us beg the lost to be reconciled.
If everyone to be saved was reconciled by His death, then everyone to be saved would already be reconciled. No need to as ambassadors of Christ, beg the lost to be reconciled. [/QUOTE]
Finally, Van does not understand that Christian preachers are to plead with the lost to be reconciled (1 Corinthians 1:21; 2 Corinthians 5:20. He should read the sermons of great preachers like Whitefield and Spurgeon, both of whom were Calvinists.

The many false doctrines of Van just do not fit with what Scripture actually says. His problem, or one of them, is that he appears to have no place for the cross of Christ. But if he doesn't understand basic doctrines like Propitiation and Redemption, this is not surprising.

I am sick to death of flogging a dead horse. I leave Van to his homemade errors; he is on ignore.

 

He doesn't ask.
God makes the dead in trespasses sinner alive with Christ (by his grace alone) and God equips the redeemed sinner with faith to believe.
There is no asking and no pleading. There is a statement of fact given to men. Believe and live. Don't believe and die. Simple, straightforward truth. No one seeks after God so God seeks and finds those who are his sheep (dead men don't have faith, therefore God does not see any faith in a dead man, which he would merit to them righteousness).
Van, stop trying to rob God of His glory.

 

Indeed, you deny biblical truth consistently and no one should pay attention to you.

We are not beggars to people. We are Ambassadors, declaring reconciliation to all who believe and damnation to those who don't. Those whom God makes alive will believe. Those destined to rebellion will not believe, no matter how much you would beg them.

 

Stop defying scripture and now that you realize your ignorance, you have no excuse.

Van, you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Not only me, but many others have shown you your error. At some point you must recognize that you are living on an island of one with your theology.